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Holy F*ck. I had no idea lenses could be this good. I came from a 5D4 and the 35 1.4L II and thought that was about as good as camera optics get. There was absolutely ZERO chromatic aberration. Anywhere. Like... at all. 

And skin tones. Ohmygawd. The colors of the SL2-S compared to the 5D4 or R5 are just bananas.

I'm shook. Leica, take all my money. 

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Enjoy the honeymoon! Like all great love story you will have stormy moments inevitably with Leica. but hang in there and enjoy those great lenses. Dont forget to try a (the) zoom one day if you fancy!

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Note that it possibly matters much as colours can be addressed in post production but being just curious, what (significant) differences have you experienced SOOC between the SL2 and the SL2S in term of colour rendering?

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20 minutes ago, Hanno said:

Note that it possibly matters much as colours can be addressed in post production but being just curious, what (significant) differences have you experienced SOOC between the SL2 and the SL2S in term of colour rendering?

More accurate colours for skin tone, vegetation greens, and under streetlights at night. At higher ISOs and in lower light, shadow recovery is colour neutral (no greens and purples), and colours are more accurate, with better tonal gradations. Highlights are much less likely to be blown. Noise comes into play at higher ISOs, and it is a more agreeable pattern. 

I'm not going to argue with those who say they can deal with all this in post. I just know that I can't!

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1 hour ago, LocalHero1953 said:

More accurate colours for skin tone, vegetation greens, and under streetlights at night. At higher ISOs and in lower light, shadow recovery is colour neutral (no greens and purples), and colours are more accurate, with better tonal gradations. Highlights are much less likely to be blown. Noise comes into play at higher ISOs, and it is a more agreeable pattern. 

I'm not going to argue with those who say they can deal with all this in post. I just know that I can't!

Thanks. Much appreciated for the feedback.  I wonder if the difference would be purely due to a different colour rendering or to differently addressing the white balance. 

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3 hours ago, Hanno said:

Thanks. Much appreciated for the feedback.  I wonder if the difference would be purely due to a different colour rendering or to differently addressing the white balance. 

It's certainly not just white balance, although I find the WB on the SL2-S is better than the SL2, which may account for the better handling of street lights. WB is easily fixed in post, but it goes beyond just WB. I think the difference comes from both the sensor (BSI design) for which Leica can't take credit, and the colour science, for which it probably can. There's a whole world of firmware that sits between the photon that lands on a sensor and the raw file that we use for processing, for which I don't think Leica gets enough credit. And the firmware is even more important for non-raw video recording, which is like a video of jpgs. As a mainly still photographer, I wouldn't think of using jpgs as the basis of post processing. Yet that is what a lot of video colour grading is doing!* So Leica deserves credit also for creating its colour world in a format with limitations. (NB Leica has been criticised for the poor quality of its jpgs in still cameras).

 

*I'm not being critical - historically it's just the limitations of processing so much data on the fly. My limited experience with raw video formats has given me a healthy respect for camera processing power and storage space.

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Skin tones is the SL2-(S) big secret. Canon is all about pleasingly healthy skin tones. Leica is about original, individual, special, peculiar, true, human skin tones of any imaginable kind. 

And please check sky colour and the greens in plants. Classy.

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