Do new M10/P/R sometimes have bottom plate wear?

[Stephen.s1]

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Oh my!!  I've removed the white paint from the leica script on the roof of my 10-P...    Worth every peso not to be called a Leica Nerd.

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[hdmesa]

I've enjoyed these responses, thanks, everyone. Here's how she ended up:

• No bottom sticker – agree it's weird-looking to leave it, at least to me.
• COOPH Leica Paracord strap (120cm, black).
• Leica M Combination Bag by Billingham (black) with Avea 5 (tan) and Avea 3 (sage) side pockets.
• Arte di Mano case (Minerva black) w/out battery door. Here's another area where the common choice just seems weird, which is leaving off the M10 bottom plate so you can fit the case with the battery/card access door. It just weirded me out beyond mention to not have the bottom plate on there, I tried. This way the bottom plate will wear at the same rate as the top plate when I take the case off and on. Also seems strange to me to have your bottom plate perfectly preserved but have your top plate worn. To each their own I guess.
• All CV lenses – 50 APO, 35 APO, 35 1.2 III, 75 1.5 – all fit in the bag as-configured (one lens rides in the Avea 5).
• Returned the 50 Summicron-M after all – Didn't love the rendering nor color. Aperture ring was tightened at the factory by a very timid individual. 
• Returned the 50 Summilux Black Chrome – the optical design is showing its age by only being sharp in the center wide open when close to minimum focus distance. Ergonomics of the hood situation are ridiculous and well-documented. Leica should have just make a special UV filter that fit with the hood as-designed. Focus ring resistance was way too heavy – what are they using for lubrication these days, gummy bears? Aperture ring was nice and firm though. For between $4.5K-$5K (pre price increase), I expected better. Leica is getting outpaced by Voigtlander these days.
• Next have to decide on the wide angle. Thinking I'll just stick with CV and go for the 21 1.4. Also considering the Leica 21 Super-Elmar-M 3.5.
• Will also get the Visoflex at some point, mainly to accommodate low-angle shooting. I think the GFX 50S/GFX100 with EVF-tilt adapter are the only two other digitals on the market that can easily accommodate a low shooting position with the EVF.

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Edited March 25, 2021 by hdmesa

[jaapv]

Have you taken any photographs with it yet?

[rramesh]

It's a Leica!. Buy another sticker and place over original sticker to protect it from further wear. Better still a full body condom case. 😀

Edited March 27, 2021 by rramesh

[250swb]

You follow the forum for ten years or more and there is always a new crisis around the corner. Good grief, it's a bit of plastic to protect the camera during manufacture or being slobbered over on a camera dealers counter. 

[Matlock]

On 3/27/2021 at 10:15 AM, jaapv said:

Have you taken any photographs with it yet?

Take photographs? A Leica is not for taking photos, only for discussing on forums 😆

[jaapv]

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I thought it was for wearing at formal occasions.

[hdmesa]

On 3/27/2021 at 4:15 AM, jaapv said:

Have you taken any photographs with it yet?

Do you follow the M10-R image thread? Do you follow some of the CV image threads in the M Lenses forum?

So yes 🧐

[hdmesa]

On 3/27/2021 at 4:05 PM, 250swb said:

You follow the forum for ten years or more and there is always a new crisis around the corner. Good grief, it's a bit of plastic to protect the camera during manufacture or being slobbered over on a camera dealers counter. 

My original post was about trying to figure out if I'd been sold a used camera that Leica just re-boxed and send back to a dealer as new. I know 10 years is a long time to continue to read for context and offer common courtesy to other forum members, but please try.

[Herr Barnack]

On 3/15/2021 at 11:36 AM, calijax said:

I actually called my Leica dealer and asked if that underlying sticker has any particular use. They basically said, "No, but some Leica nerds get really perturbed by them being removed."

I laughed and took off that cheap plastic immediately! It felt good deep down in my soul 😀

 

Hell hath no fury like a Leica nerd scorned.

I'm reminded of the story of the "shrink wrappers." 

Legend has it that in Japan, some Leicaphiles will buy a new Leica camera or lens in a box that after close scrutiny is determined to have never been opened, then have the camera store shrink wrap the box and keep it like that - never to open, see, touch or Heaven forbid to actually use 😳 their new Leica acquisition.

Go figure.

Edited March 29, 2021 by Herr Barnack

[250swb]

35 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

My original post was about trying to figure out if I'd been sold a used camera that Leica just re-boxed and send back to a dealer as new. I know 10 years is a long time to continue to read for context and offer common courtesy to other forum members, but please try.

I will remember to offer you common courtesy when if necessary.

Edited March 29, 2021 by 250swb

[hdmesa]

10 minutes ago, 250swb said:

I will remember to offer you common courtesy when if necessary.

What more could a fellow forum member ask for? 😆

[hdmesa]

21 minutes ago, Herr Barnack said:

Hell hath no fury like a Leica nerd scorned.

I'm reminded of the story of the "shrink wrappers." 

Legend has it that in Japan, some Leicaphiles will buy a new Leica camera or lens in a box that after close scrutiny is determined to have never been opened, then have the camera store shrink wrap the box and keep it like that - never to open, see, touch or Heaven forbid to actually use 😳 their new Leica acquisition.

Go figure.

Hard core Leica nerd-ing.

Well I guess at least I didn’t post a photo of the box and ask if i was supposed to wait to break the seal until I was outside under the light of a Leica-red moon.

[colonel]

On 3/13/2021 at 1:47 AM, hdmesa said:

Wondering if it is normal for the clear protective sticker on my M10-R to have come with obvious wear on the bottom plate. My M10-P Reporter bottom plate appeared flawless, but maybe it's the black color on the regular M10-R making the wear show up. Shutter count started around 300. Box had the unbroken, sealed tape on the outer box. Is it possible Leica is re-boxing returns, or do they sometimes come like this from factory testing before packing? I'm hoping the wear is on the sticker itself, but I can't really tell for sure without pulling it off. No other signs of wear or use anywhere else on the body. 

Exactly how it looked straight out of the box:

this is not wear and completely normal

the bottom protector is always a bit ruffled like that

my advise is not to take it off. protects the bottom plate and raises second hand value slightly

 

Edited April 2, 2021 by colonel

[hdmesa]

2 minutes ago, colonel said:

this is not wear and completely normal

the bottom protector is always a bit ruffled like that

my advise is not to take it off. protects the bottom plate and raises second hand value slightly

 

If you read through the thread, you'll see I removed it. Glad I did, too, since it just feels weird and looks weird to me.

And why have a perfect bottom of the bottom plate and still get wear on the sides of the bottom plate? That's seems strange to me.

 

[colonel]

4 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

If you read through the thread, you'll see I removed it. Glad I did, too, since it just feels weird and looks weird to me.

And why have a perfect bottom of the bottom plate and still get wear on the sides of the bottom plate? That's seems strange to me.

 

of course your choice. I am a naked metal man myself too ...

[sutlore]

I think it is still OK to leave the sticker on where it used to be but, my problem is after taking in-taking out the SD card several times, the base plate start jiggling back and forth when I am holding the M10-P tightly. It does not effect my image quality but, annoying me a lot. Feels like the base plate is falling off.

no idea what to do

[jaapv]

Let your local Leica Store have a look at it.

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