Monochrome SL ... SL2-SM or SL2-M ?

[FrozenInTime]

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Which niche SL series camera would you want to see with a monochrome sensor : 24 or 47 megapixels ?

I never output poster size prints, but every opportunity for increased dynamic range and higher ISO with nice noise structure is welcomed.

I would not be surprised if Leica has both in the lab for evaluation, but will hold back to see how well the SL2-S is received before making a call on which if either to launch.

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[FlashGordonPhotography]

Neither. Put the M10M 40MP sensor in it.

Gordon

[Jk1002]

I think sticking a different sensor into an existing body seems fairly easy for them but for sure it would be the 40mp that they use in Q and M.

Am really curious what they have in stock for 2021. Maybe they keep this pace and start pushing better sensors instead of entire new body to keep the line fresh and up with the competition.

The SL2-S release really surprised me.

Cheers

JK

[Jeff S]

38 minutes ago, Jk1002 said:

I think sticking a different sensor into an existing body seems fairly easy for them but for sure it would be the 40mp that they use in Q and M.

 

Neither the Q (24 MP) nor the Q2 (47 MP) has a 40 MP sensor.  The 40 MP sensors for the M10 Monochrom and M10-R were derived from the S3 sensor architecture.

“Sticking a sensor into a body” is anything but easy, particularly with the special requirements of an M, using legacy and modern lenses.  Supporting electronics, heat management, etc are among many considerations, not the least of which is availability and economies of scale (a key reason for sharing S3 architecture).

Jeff

[Jon Warwick]

22 hours ago, FrozenInTime said:

Which niche SL series camera would you want to see with a monochrome sensor : 24 or 47 megapixels ?

I never output poster size prints, .....

I would 100% look for a 47 megapixels version, given I print to poster size!! At very large sizes, I simply think the more resolution the better to avoid resampling as much as possible, with the high resolution giving a realism and lack of “plastic” digitalness to the print. 

[Slender]

Thing is you lose some AF possibilities because of the BW sensor, apparently (tracking, which is one of the best feature of the SL2 AF in continuous)...
But hell yeah, those amazing SL lenses will really shine for BW lovers...

[Jk1002]

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21 hours ago, Jeff S said:

Neither the Q (24 MP) nor the Q2 (47 MP) has a 40 MP sensor.  The 40 MP sensors for the M10 Monochrom and M10-R were derived from the S3 sensor architecture.

“Sticking a sensor into a body” is anything but easy, particularly with the special requirements of an M, using legacy and modern lenses.  Supporting electronics, heat management, etc are among many considerations, not the least of which is availability and economies of scale (a key reason for sharing S3 architecture).

Jeff

You caught me not keeping up with the releases. I somehow had in the back of my head that they just re used the M sensor.

It has to be somewhat easy though giving the pace the spit these out. 
I mean launch wise for body this must have been one of the busiest years for them.

Cheers

JK

[FrozenInTime]

I think I will run a test tomorrow, M10M handheld vs SL2-S handheld with the same lens, to see wins the low light challenge ( for static subjects ).

I’m not sure if the readout speed of the M10M / M10-R sensor is fast enough for video , which is why I did not expect it for appear in a SL body.

[FrozenInTime]

SL2-S vs M10M ISO 6400 1/50s 40mm f/4 @ 0.7m handheld ( deliberately handheld to bring real world shake induced blur into the sharpness comparison )

Very close to each other.

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Dropping the shutter speed and lowering the ISO three stops on the SL2-S with it's IBIS, will likely see it winning in sharpness, dynamic range and SNR.

The SL2-S is more accurate to compose with , easier to focus accurately in low light and to nail exposure;  but the M10M will be faster to manually focus and grab the shot at real world distances.