Leica M9-P buffer

[woutdezeeuw]

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Hello Leica experts,

Does anybody know if the M9-p has a larger buffer than the M9? I've read a few posts that hint it has, but I couldn't find any official information on this.

I'm considering getting another M9 or M9-p (costs a few hundred more), I don't care much about the sapphire LCD, but an increased buffer size would be welcome.

Wout

[dummilux]

It’s the same camera inside.

[woutdezeeuw]

I guess that makes sense, since Leica did provide an M9 to M9-P upgrade by just replacing the top and back plates.

[Biotar]

I have both and it is a completely different camera. The buffer of the P is doubled and the shutter is smoother - of course only with a non upgraded one.

[woutdezeeuw]

Oh, so it is doubled, maybe that's worth it. How many shots does it take before the buffer fills? On the regular M9 it was something like 7?

I thought the shutter was the same, but it's a little more silent then?

Edited November 19, 2020 by woutdezeeuw

[Biotar]

Oh sry - I tested it quickly - series are really the same - rather depending on the memory card (the memory seems identical), but the shutter is definitely different - much softer and quieter.

[Biotar]

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I think I read it in the announcement of the 9-P that it has 2GB of memory. And it feels like the 9-P runs more smoothly without breaks.

[woutdezeeuw]

The more quiet shutter is a nice to have as well, I prefer to go unnoticed. I think I'll go for the M9-P then.

Well, thank you for testing it!

[tobey bilek]

M9P more quiet shutter than my original M8.  Never owned a plain M9.

Can’t tell about buffer as I use all cameras as I use large format or marine sniper his rifle, one shot, one kill.  

M10 is really really quiet and smooth, more so than M9.

[John Ricard]

I've been using and reading about the M9 for about 7 years now I think.  This is the first I've ever heard of the P version having a better buffer.  @Biotar, I would ask that you post a video to show that, "The buffer of the P is doubled ".  Even a Google search produces not a single result that states this information.

[Boojay]

I have the M9P and I'm pretty sure there was no difference in the buffer.   That came along with the M240 to M-P 240.

I think Leica would have mentioned it in the announcement.

Solms, Germany (June 21, 2011) - Leica Camera AG is proud to present a new version of the world’s smallest, full-frame digital system camera: the Leica M9-P. This new model will sit alongside the Leica M9 in the company’s rangefinder portfolio. Providing an alternative, even more discreet and resilient design that further reinforces the classic nature of the M9, the M9-P specifically meets the needs of professional photographers. The new model is now available in a classic silver chrome or subtle black paint finish.

Featuring the compact size, full-frame, 18 megapixel 24 x 36mm sensor (35mm format), sophisticated image processing and robust construction of the highly successful Leica M9, the M9-P also incorporates features designed for professional users or photographers who prefer a pure, even more unobtrusive styling.

The Leica M9-P includes a scratch-resistant, sapphire crystal covering on the LCD screen. Produced using special diamond cutting tools, this screen is fashioned from one of the world’s hardest and most resilient materials. Extremely resistant to wear and almost unbreakable, the sapphire glass LCD cover offers many years of reliable use. Additionally, the anti-reflective coating on both sides of the cover improves the review of images on the display after capture, particularly in unfavorable lighting conditions.

Finished in vulcanite leatherette, the external covering of the body of the M9-P is particularly resistant to wear. This leathering features a more coarsely-textured finish that ensures a steadier grip when shooting, making the M9-P feel particularly safe and secure in the hand.

Fulfilling the needs of many professional photographers to capture the decisive moment as discretely as possible, the Leica M9-P’s minimalist styling highlights its most essential features. The Leica red dot logo and the M9 lettering on the front have been omitted and replaced with the Leica name in classic script form engraved on the top plate, making the M9-P the quintessential unobtrusive tool.

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by Boojay

[lucerne]

On the factory built M9-P  (not an update), the buffer was definitely double in the "P" and neither  the top of the body or the front had a Leica Logo..  Just Leica script and very smart.  Also, the rear LCD was scratch proof.   Neither buffer specification is mentioned in the instruction manual.

however, if a standard M9 was modified later in the factory (for a fee),  then no change was made to the LCD.   It was never made clear if an internal change was made to the internal storage.

Demand for the original M9-P is very high now.  

 

Edited November 27, 2020 by lucerne

[John Ricard]

On 11/27/2020 at 4:37 PM, lucerne said:

On the factory built M9-P  (not an update), the buffer was definitely double in the "P"

 

Unless you can prove your statement, it is irresponsible for you to state this as fact when there is literally no documentation anywhere to back up your statement. 

Edited January 9, 2021 by John Ricard

[lucerne]

no need to shout!
 

[John Ricard]

4 hours ago, lucerne said:

no need to shout!
 

No offense intended.  I've been ranting about the horrible buffers on Leica M cameras for literally 9 years now.

 

[boojum]

I, for one, would welcome a definitive, knowledgeable answer on buffer size.  From my computer days, "One test is worth a thousand opinions."  So I would welcome the final word from the factory.  If they are equal buffer sizes I would guess the inflated price on the M9-P would deflate some.

 

Factory, what say you?

[Denys]

13 hours ago, boojum said:

I, for one, would welcome a definitive, knowledgeable answer on buffer size.  From my computer days, "One test is worth a thousand opinions."  So I would welcome the final word from the factory.  If they are equal buffer sizes I would guess the inflated price on the M9-P would deflate some.

 

Factory, what say you?

I’ll wager one my British Pound coins that the buffer is the same size..  

[boojum]

51 minutes ago, Denys said:

I’ll wager one my British Pound coins that the buffer is the same size..  

Make it a Guinea.   ;o)