The dreaded JPEG subject

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21 minutes ago, 250swb said:

Well duh, the in camera JPEG has been sharpened to heck and back and the RAW file hasn't. That aside the RAW file is potentially a much larger file, so it needs a different Sharpening regime anyway.

That's why i said i was making an error.

Have you ever made any mistakes?

[jaapv]

I tend to eufimize  my mistakes as "learning moments" . 

[zeitz]

Raw is not an image.  It is a table of values off the pixels.  Sharpness is not an adjective that applies to raw.  The sensor does not create a jpeg image or any image at all.  A jpeg image results from the camera or from the computer software; both work with the exact same raw data.

[jaapv]

8 minutes ago, zeitz said:

Raw is not an image.  It is a table of values off the pixels.  Sharpness is not an adjective that applies to raw.  The sensor does not create a jpeg image or any image at all.  A jpeg image results from the camera or from the computer software; both work with the exact same raw data.

Precisely! The   thing that some regard as the "raw image" is the product of  the raw conversion by the postprocessing software following presets that can be redefined by the user. As, for instance, I use  mt own profiles  and  tweaked presets, I can be 100% sure that the raw output from my cameras is different from any other raw  output.

[Jeff S]

But it seems more romantic to be considered a photographer than a data gatherer and manipulator.

Jeff

[Bobitybob]

Never tried it and no affiliation, but you might find this interesting https://www.fastrawviewer.com as a different way to view your raw files and compare then to jpeg.

At the price it seems very reasonable and they also do other apps including one specifically for B&W digital camera files that some may find useful.

Edited November 18, 2020 by Bobitybob

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Three weeks of struggle and frustration but all my best images are now slightly better with a bit more zing using lightroom editing on  the raw files.

This makes it worthwhile for me to continue using raw.

I now cannot make my JPEGS better than my edits from raw despite my best efforts so i am happy with my decision to try raw because of changes in my photo output.