marcg Posted October 24, 2020 Share #1 Posted October 24, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) When it's all very flashy, and Leica seems to be coming into the modern world – because they are using QR codes to pair your camera with the app. However they seem to be pulling up the drawbridge is behind them because if some quirk of your chrome book means that you can't use the QR code, then you have to fall back on the password which is very clearly displayed in the camera' s screen. Big problem though – the Leica Fotos app doesn't allow you to pair the camera with the app using the password. It doesn't allow you to input the password! I'm struggling to understand the purpose of having a camera Wi-Fi password. Come on Leica – if you have gone to the trouble of coding in a password into each camera, then surely it seems reasonable to be able to input it into the Fotos app in order to prepare the camera with the app when for some reason or other the QR code won't do the trick. And by the way, in my case, my chrome book produces an elongated image of the QR code which the app doesn't seem to be to translate. How hard would it be simply to offer a facility to input the password as an alternative? The password is already there, for goodness sakes. Surely that would be much more in keeping with the vision of Oskar Barnack (And while you're about it, how about an adjustable dioptre on your next M model?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matlock Posted October 24, 2020 Share #2 Posted October 24, 2020 Well I don't have any problems and I don't understand what you are getting at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted October 24, 2020 Well I'm glad you don't have any problems – but I'm having very serious problems and I wouldn't have any of those problems if I could simply enter the password which is displayed on the camera screen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted October 24, 2020 Share #4 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, marcg said: Well I'm glad you don't have any problems – but I'm having very serious problems and I wouldn't have any of those problems if I could simply enter the password which is displayed on the camera screen. When you go to wifi on your camera the appropriate QR code appears on the screen, simply scan that with your phone (once you have selected the correct camera model) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom.w.bn Posted October 24, 2020 Share #5 Posted October 24, 2020 vor 2 Stunden schrieb marcg: I'm struggling to understand the purpose of having a camera Wi-Fi password. Without a password, the Wi-Fi is open and everyone with a Wi-Fi Sniffer can capture the data that is exchanged between camera and app. Some people care, some people don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom.w.bn Posted October 24, 2020 Share #6 Posted October 24, 2020 After the 101st time I dropped my smartphone, the camera stopped working. Would be nice if programmers thought about this situation and provided an alternative to the qr-code that requires a camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted October 24, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 16 minutes ago, tom.w.bn said: Without a password, the Wi-Fi is open and everyone with a Wi-Fi Sniffer can capture the data that is exchanged between camera and app. Some people care, some people don't. I completely agree – that you have completely missed the point – which is why if the QR code method of pairing fails, can I simply enter the cameras password into the app Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted October 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, Matlock said: When you go to wifi on your camera the appropriate QR code appears on the screen, simply scan that with your phone (once you have selected the correct camera model) sorry, but if you read through my initial post again and also the follow-up, you will see that that is precisely the problem. It won't scan. So the question is, once again, why do we have a password on the screen of the camera and yet were not allowed to enter it into the Leica fotos app if the QR scan fails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom.w.bn Posted October 24, 2020 Share #9 Posted October 24, 2020 vor 1 Minute schrieb marcg: I completely agree – that you have completely missed the point – which is why if the QR code method of pairing fails, can I simply enter the cameras password into the app Then I don't understand your problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) Well I'm sorry don't understand it. I really don't know what else to do. Anyway the message is out for Leica if they ever look at this, the camera has a password. It might be that some people – me at any rate, that can't get their camera to pair with a particular device – a chrome book – using the QR code. If there was an option to enter the password into the app then there would be no problem. Edited October 24, 2020 by marcg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 25, 2020 Share #11 Posted October 25, 2020 Have you tried going into the settings menu of your phone/chromebook , selecting the camera network and entering the password? The password is meant for setting up the WiFi, not for activating the app. When you open the app it will detect whether the WiFi connection is present. If not, it offers the shortcut by a QR code. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted October 25, 2020 It's not the phone – it's a chromebook – but yes I have. I can connect the Wi-Fi to the phone without any problem because they can both scan the QR code without difficulty. However, the problem is that it seems that the app has to talk directly to the Wi-Fi and even though the Wi-Fi is connected, the app doesn't recognise that it's connected and you simply get the eternal circle going round and round and round and round and round ad infinitum. Telephone connects and works perfectly. So does an android tablet. It's simply the chromebook and the reason is because it won't scan the QR code and that leaves me only with the possibility of entering the camera password – but because Leica has basically forgotten – I'm quite sure it has simply been forgotten/overlooked – to have a password entry facility, I'm not able to get them to pair up. Once again, I don't understand that the camera has a password – and yet the app has no facility to enter the password. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted October 25, 2020 And by the way, I've just tried pairing up the Nikon app with my snapper camera – it uses a password. Pairs perfectly. It doesn't use a QR code at all. Dear me how old-fashioned Nikon is compared to those 21st century pointy-headed-people at Leica who decided to use a super modern QR code system and no password. In fact not only that, but the Nikon allows you to to choose your own password so you can select something memorable if you want rather than a jumble of numbers which is presented by Leica. The Leica app is improving – there's no doubt about that. It is head and shoulders over what it was when it first came out – but people are already suggesting refinements and I hope that Leica continues to develop it – even though they now appear to be providing it free of charge. Password entry seems to me to be a very basic requirement. Incidentally, can it not be used by people with digital Leica is without screens? How do they manage the QR code? Maybe they don't have that functionality on those cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted October 25, 2020 In fact I've just noticed that the M10D has a QR code tucked away under the bottom plate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 26, 2020 Share #15 Posted October 26, 2020 So if I understand it correctly, the Chromebook will establish a WiFi connection with the camera but the app doesn't see the iFi connection? That is certainly a failure. I doubt whether any password entering would solve it, it needs to be addressed in the software. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted October 26, 2020 I just tried it with my telephone. I connected the telephone's Wi-Fi directly to the camera and that connected correctly. I then started up Leica Fotos and told it to connect to the camera – and it connected immediately and operated correctly. So that means that whether you connect the phone in advance or use the Leica app to carry out the connection, it works. That's pretty good because some apps won't do that. However, on my Chromebook, it won't work that way. The whole problem is because the camera produces a distorted view of the QR code and so the code can't be read correctly. I am absolutely certain that if I could simply enter a password then it would connect correctly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 26, 2020 Share #17 Posted October 26, 2020 Or it simply doesn’t play with Chrome... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted October 26, 2020 Yup, that is definitely a possibility which could be a shame given the functionality of chrome books nowadays as well as the portability which is ideal for taking out into the field. Maybe it works with chrome books but simply not with a Google Pixel Slate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 27, 2020 Share #19 Posted October 27, 2020 Well, Chromebooks are generally recognized as. not being the best tools for photographic applications; Photoshop, for instance, is not supported and can only be installed through a hack, so I am not surprised that Leica would not spend too much time and resources on compatibility. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted October 27, 2020 I hear what you say – but if I'm travelling round, then I prefer a lightweight chrome book rather than humping my Windows laptop about. But also, when you talk about best tools of photographic applications, I'm not sure that telephones or android tablets are any better. The Leica app is really only about being able to download your photographs so that you can then look at them all float them up into the cloud so that they are fully secure. The Leica app doesn't offer any – or any useful – editing tools and that's not what it's about. So on that basis, tablets, phones, chrome books all offer about the same functionality – but chrome books – or at least the Google Slate doesn't seem to have the necessary compatibility. It would be nice to know if this extends to all chrome books. If it simply my chrome book model – then of course that's understandable. If it is all chrome books which have this difficulty then there is a lacuna which probably should be addressed by Leica. Chrome books aren't going away Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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