Leica M-Adapter L Black

[nicci78]

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Chinese knock off does not worth it. Just buy the real deal. You are already paying high price for CL and for Summicron. Why save few dollars in that department.

Losing EXIF,  access to lens selection menu, automatic software correction, dial for magnification and perfect tolerance. Do not worth it. 

I will always remember a member of french forum summilux.net complaining about its SL2 and Noctilux-M 0.95/50mm asph. Putting the whole in sale. He did not realised that its cheap adapter were the culprit ! No software correction and bad tolerances make the image look bad.

He finally just change the adapter for the Leica one. Every trouble solved.

Morality : saving 200€ after paying 13000€ were kinda dumb.

 

PS : you should listen to Peter Karbe presentation about the art of M lenses. Software corrections are compulsory in order to be used on digital body. 

Presentation available on Leica Australia or Singapore YouTube channels.

Edited October 21, 2020 by nicci78

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[ramarren]

48 minutes ago, Joe S said:

Thanks for clarifying that.   So other than the use of the four way controller instead of the L or R dial the focus assist function is identical.    Does one touch magnify and a second touch increase the magnification?    And yet another touch return to the complete image?

I couldn't tell you. I've been using the M Adapter L exclusively since I bought the CL.  

G

[danmdan]

On 10/19/2020 at 2:26 PM, ramarren said:

Whether something is worth what it costs is a useful question, and I'd have to say that the M Adapter L has been easily worth what it cost me. I've been using mine constantly for about five years now: it has worked flawlessly and provided more functionality than any of the other mount adapters I've used. Its mounting action is firm, precise, and properly aligned, the mount register is closer to right on the money than any other third party adapter's has been, and, after five years of constant use, you could not tell it apart from a new one coming out of the box if I put them together on the table in front of you. That's quality and value.

G

Thanks for that.  As I’m unlikely to be using any coded M lenses I think the 7 Artisans version will have do on a T body which itself only cost me £375 GBP.     I’m using the older T on a restricted budget anyway. (I bought my first Leica, a IIIb, some 60 years back). I think a Visoflex would be more useful to help with more accurate focussing!

Edited October 25, 2020 by danmdan

[danmdan]

On 10/21/2020 at 6:36 AM, nicci78 said:

Chinese knock off does not worth it. Just buy the real deal. You are already paying high price for CL and for Summicron. Why save few dollars in that department.

Losing EXIF,  access to lens selection menu, automatic software correction, dial for magnification and perfect tolerance.

Some are better than others, so with no connection to either Company, I use adapters from K&F and 7Artisans.

[ramarren]

31 minutes ago, Saussure said:

To use one old Leica M39 Lens on Leica CL => can I use the the M-Adapter L with the M-Adapter IRZOO 14097 ? Thanks! 

 

 

Yes... Any LTM to M-bayonet adapter will do since you're not engaging the RF viewfinder frame line cam. The lastest couple of LTM to M-bayonet adapters I bought are made by Rayqual and include pre-machined depressions into which you can paint a six-bit lens code if you want the lens to be automatically recognized and a lens profile selected on a digital M or CL body. 

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[jaapv]

But it may be that the cutout on some older adapters will leave the six-bit code reader free, which  may confuse the camera.

[tommonego@gmail.com]

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I have several older Leica lenses I use that are not covered by the lens correction menu. So I use lens corrections for my 23 Summicron, if I leave the lens correction on in the menu and use the my Leica adapter I keep getting I don't know the lens messages, that doesn't happen when I use an off brand M to L adapter. So there is a reason for them. As it has been said there isn't much need for lens corrections 35mm and longer lenses. I have left the correction off and used my 23 and haven't seen much difference. Interestingly my 35 Canada Summilux is recognized by the camer, it doesn't have the ID markings so I just use the Leica adapter with that lens. 

[ramarren]

48 minutes ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

I have several older Leica lenses I use that are not covered by the lens correction menu. So I use lens corrections for my 23 Summicron, if I leave the lens correction on in the menu and use the my Leica adapter I keep getting I don't know the lens messages, that doesn't happen when I use an off brand M to L adapter. So there is a reason for them. As it has been said there isn't much need for lens corrections 35mm and longer lenses. I have left the correction off and used my 23 and haven't seen much difference. Interestingly my 35 Canada Summilux is recognized by the camer, it doesn't have the ID markings so I just use the Leica adapter with that lens. 

Contrary to that notion, I've seen visible improvements to the rendering of my Summilux-R 50 and Macro-Elmarit-R 60 lenses with and without the lens profiles enabled. I'd put the dividing line of where the lens profiles provide vanishing little benefit other than EXIF data at the 75-90 mm focal length ... At least on the APS-C format, corrections at those focal lengths can be measured with a pixel differencing operation, but are not visible to the eye.

Through trial and error, I've figured out which Leica lens profiles work best/improve the rendering of my non-Leica lenses (for example, the Voigtländer Color-Skopar 28, Color-Skopar 50 and Pentax-L 43 Special). So I use the Leica M Adapter L exclusively and have used the Rayqual LTM to M-mount adapters to code them. I haven't found any profiles that do better than the Adobe lens correction in LR for the Voigtländer HyperWide 10, so I don't code that one at all, just let it ride as "unknown lens". 

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[lct]

1 hour ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

As it has been said there isn't much need for lens corrections 35mm and longer lenses. [...]  Interestingly my 35 Canada Summilux is recognized by the camer, it doesn't have the ID markings so I just use the Leica adapter with that lens.

Coding may make significant difference re distortion on 35mm M lenses. At least it is true on my 35/1.4 FLE, 35/2 asph v1, 35/2 v4 and 35/2.5 M lenses but not on the 35/1.4 v2 which has too low distortion i suspect. I mean on the CL with Leica adapter.