Macro adapter with SL2?

[Ktsa5239]

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Have anyone tried using the macro adapter for the SL2? 
I’m having this problem where I currently only have m lenses for the SL2 but the minimum focus distance for my 90mm APO is stopping me from getting close enough for floral and other types of photography I want to try. 
Im thinking either getting the macro adaptor which in itself is like 1k almost in AUD or getting a L mount macro lens, or getting a sigma adapter to use my old canon 70-200 lens.

which option do you think works best?

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[helged]

19 minutes ago, Ktsa5239 said:

Have anyone tried using the macro adapter for the SL2? 
I’m having this problem where I currently only have m lenses for the SL2 but the minimum focus distance for my 90mm APO is stopping me from getting close enough for floral and other types of photography I want to try. 
Im thinking either getting the macro adaptor which in itself is like 1k almost in AUD or getting a L mount macro lens, or getting a sigma adapter to use my old canon 70-200 lens.

which option do you think works best?

Generally speaking, a dedicated macro lens is better than a macro adapter (with the exception for lenses specifically made for macro adapter). Presently, Sigma 70mm f2.8 Macro Art is the only (I believe) macro lens in L-mount. Leica R 60mm and 100mm f2.8 Macro are great, and used by many. Another alternative is to put a good macro lens (=filter) on the lens. The two Mauri Achromat filters are good: https://www.marumi-filter.co.jp/en/product/05/. 

See also the thread

 

Edited October 2, 2020 by helged

[Ktsa5239]

Thanks for the suggestions.

at this stage I don’t really want to get more lenses but rather just use the m lenses that I have. So dedicated macro lens is on the bottom of the list at the moment.

i like the idea of the filter attachment but I would have to get several sizes for the lenses I use most right? would it create a noticeable difference in comparison to the Leica macro adapter?

thanks again!

 

[frame-it]

11 minutes ago, Ktsa5239 said:

Thanks for the suggestions.

at this stage I don’t really want to get more lenses but rather just use the m lenses that I have. So dedicated macro lens is on the bottom of the list at the moment.

i like the idea of the filter attachment but I would have to get several sizes for the lenses I use most right? would it create a noticeable difference in comparison to the Leica macro adapter?

thanks again!

 

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/305251-macro-adapter-m-90apo/

[thatkatmat]

I have a 7 Artisans Close Focus Ring (Adapter) LM-L. I think it works pretty good, can't remember how far it opens up but you can get really close. It has trouble on some lenses focusing at infinity, but if you're using it for macro that wouldn't be a problem. I use it as a general adapter for my 90mm Summarit on my SL2, it focuses at infinity and you can get very close focus.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552539-REG/7artisans_photoelectric_close_ring_l_s_close_focus_adapter_ring.html/reviews?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAjwn9v7BRBqEiwAbq1Ey6Mpfxodq3EFl68QGA42E8WShg567TFe1XUwykaZbtZLh3xPL-fOgxoCVEkQAvD_BwE

I see the 1 review says his didn't reach infinity...perhaps it only works on some and his wasn't one of them. Like I said, mine does with the 90 summarit and my 35/1.4 ZM but doesn't on my brand new 50 LUX, so....YMMV

 

Cheers!

[Einst_Stein]

I have a heliocord for Rodenstock APO-Rodagon-D 75mm f4 macro lens. They work nicely up to 1:1.

like this:  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M42-42mm-Lens-to-Leica-L-Mount-TL2-TL-CL-SL2-SL-Adapter-Macro-Focusing-Helicoid/264634665776?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3d9d748b30:g:c9oAAOSwWZVeRyJ9&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%2Fn%2BzU5L90Z278x5ickkXKoKcbeZcOrOku%2BoOBl%2BS8UckmhpJ4E0m0MLjROG1CLjoYwXFlPUtuP8vS%2F4aVRyCeRqvLrAWNF46iI3e2zD0YDRB1fV4OOtkL03jbndBFubTZ3e44O6ELcOP9Bot0bGRuqlbL1W8kkOjQHI7dZwoOM2SzBtnVOWbEfr%2Bc5U62jmI09gfEWHD4N%2Bv3qDNYKh3XW4sqyzMUiVe7eeMnj03I%2FRhLAcmiHrQ1usQzCBwkowTTGT2w9x4NpYy7un8w4PApHE3SKt8WbMuy2RH7AB9EUmysivsLMP5v2h4hxvU7%2Fs2wS5EAWzRRLucZfP0aqmE3JhUnsNuh1s1hJQDZ8Mt1NFSL%2BFzX2SCT2dvWhDQcnkb88H9NomQ11pWlUEtEXzje21yzhO5jc%2FaQJlLcu6F26TY06Wi%2FuX3K9OS3ARvZ7GY76nCe3mr%2BUdQ4nboYVgUeO%2BfyfDtkh9YfYJads586dmg%2BI3ULfpTsx8CGr%2FHzM1G0QymZvhTBrZ0BOZHSnpKhFhsmg2QQdUBBNMXKdGLS3%2BsjUAtRZvoGhfa3007NjcU2SvS4Yz0FtXsbjlwq%2FATg7xMizSZY0%2BLGQNaePDaA970BhnIHgrvsLmDom3NX%2B%2Fe1gmnBa3clsNDie6I5WNdAJOfA3n%2FU9QqeT9H0wVs2ul%2FykdY08roN7vrY3ATaMBkHDZFLhL9TzRZc9t6CLMjW3UimXIbSRHCV8hcFDsJhq7Hn0n1dSGPERspSTFbDdjmUWzV2VbJuju%2F%2BB6MH8Gqqx%2FTpDaZ6MWdU3CLpKNaA%3D%3D|cksum%3A264634665776f399aab9d6bc443887974e3d0c670290|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2334524

 

[Ktsa5239]

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Thanks for the choices and ideas. I guess other brands adaptors have the advantage of going from M mount to L mount whereas the Leica one will still need to go on a M to L adaptor. Does Anyone know if more adaptors decay the image quality? 
 

the reason being, anything from the US is going to take two months to ship over due to the lock downs and stuff 

Edited October 3, 2020 by Ktsa5239

[wjdrijfhout]

Yes, the M-Macro adapter works well on the SL(2) with the 90mm Summicron-M. I have used this and the results are good. 

Having said that, I have not found using the macro-adapter a pleasant experience on the SL at all. The problem with any adaptor is that the maximum focusing distance suddenly becomes extremely short. So if you're walking around you may sometimes have a somewhat wider shot, and sometimes a narrower close-in macro shot. In my case this often meant I had to take out the macro-adapter several times. In a controlled studio-setting, with purely focusing on macro this may not be an issue at all.

Based on this drawback, I have been looking out for a proper macro-solution for the SL(2) that allows focusing from macro-distance to infinity for a long time. I was close to pull the trigger on the Leica-R 100mm f/2.8mm which comes highly recommended, even thought the design is very old by today's standards.

But ultimately I decided to buy the Laowa 100mm ultra macro APO: https://www.venuslens.net/product/laowa-100mm-f-2-8-2x-macro-apo/. This is really an incredible lens at an even more incredible price level (around $500). The corner to corner sharpness is outstanding, the chromatic aberration is better controlled than any other macro lens I've seen, and as a really interesting bonus it has a 2:1 magnification (most macro's don't go further than 1:1), which creates even more creative options. I am 100% on Leica glass on my Leica cameras and it took me a while to break that tradition, but very happy with the result. This lens is absolutely worthy of a Leica-kit.

A few days ago, Sigma came out with a 100mm macro as well. Given their history with the ART-lenses, this is probably a good option too, but I have not looked into that yet.

[caissa]

21 hours ago, helged said:

Generally speaking, a dedicated macro lens is better than a macro adapter (with the exception for lenses specifically made for macro adapter). Presently, Sigma 70mm f2.8 Macro Art is the only (I believe) macro lens in L-mount. Leica R 60mm and 100mm f2.8 Macro are great, and used by many. Another alternative is to put a good macro lens (=filter) on the lens. The two Mauri Achromat filters are good: https://www.marumi-filter.co.jp/en/product/05/. 

See also the thread

 

There is now also a new Sigma 2.8/105 macro lens in L-mount. I think the quality is much better than using Marumi close up lenses. It’s a very good offer while Leica has no FF macro lens for the SL.

Edited October 3, 2020 by caissa

[caissa]

I would also love to see a L-mount macro ring. I cannot see why nobody is offering them (maybe several types, maybe even a set). I would not mind also a third party.

[helged]

3 minutes ago, caissa said:

I would also love to see a L-mount macro ring. I cannot see why nobody is offering them (maybe several types, maybe even a set). I would not mind also a third party.

I have and use the Novoflex bellows. Only for dedicared macro work, clearly. https://www.novoflex.de/en/products-637/macro/extension-bellows.html

[caissa]

Yes I have seen that but I found it very expensive and too clumsy/big  for what I want (sorry). But I think Novoflex should be a candidate to provide a set of rings. But probably also extremely expensive ....

Sorry, no, I mixed it up with another ring to turn lenses around. This is a way to built an artificial macro ring from two other pieces. Anyway, Novoflex should be able to offer a good ring, but unfortunately they don’t afaik. 🤕

Edited October 3, 2020 by caissa

[Ktsa5239]

11 hours ago, wjdrijfhout said:

Yes, the M-Macro adapter works well on the SL(2) with the 90mm Summicron-M. I have used this and the results are good. 

Having said that, I have not found using the macro-adapter a pleasant experience on the SL at all. The problem with any adaptor is that the maximum focusing distance suddenly becomes extremely short. So if you're walking around you may sometimes have a somewhat wider shot, and sometimes a narrower close-in macro shot. In my case this often meant I had to take out the macro-adapter several times. In a controlled studio-setting, with purely focusing on macro this may not be an issue at all.

Based on this drawback, I have been looking out for a proper macro-solution for the SL(2) that allows focusing from macro-distance to infinity for a long time. I was close to pull the trigger on the Leica-R 100mm f/2.8mm which comes highly recommended, even thought the design is very old by today's standards.

But ultimately I decided to buy the Laowa 100mm ultra macro APO: https://www.venuslens.net/product/laowa-100mm-f-2-8-2x-macro-apo/. This is really an incredible lens at an even more incredible price level (around $500). The corner to corner sharpness is outstanding, the chromatic aberration is better controlled than any other macro lens I've seen, and as a really interesting bonus it has a 2:1 magnification (most macro's don't go further than 1:1), which creates even more creative options. I am 100% on Leica glass on my Leica cameras and it took me a while to break that tradition, but very happy with the result. This lens is absolutely worthy of a Leica-kit.

A few days ago, Sigma came out with a 100mm macro as well. Given their history with the ART-lenses, this is probably a good option too, but I have not looked into that yet.

Thanks for your suggestions! The Laowa looks really interesting, would I still get auto focus on it? The sigma looks good too but that’s not going to come to Australia for awhile.

[wjdrijfhout]

Laowa is manual-only, just like the 90mm summicron-M. It has a very decent focus-throw and very solid and smooth mechanics. For macro-work I prefer manual focus. Another option I have tried is the 24-90-SL with a marumi apo-close-up lens, but I just can’t get used to the non-linear focus-by-wire. 

[Ktsa5239]

Which solution do you guys think is the best for either doing floral photography or fish photography in an aquarium through the glass tank?

these are the two applications that I mainly use macro for. My thinking process is that if if I could reduce focus distance for my 50mm apo m, it would allow me to do both 

[Ktsa5239]

My macro adapter for M to L mount has arrived

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Macro-Close-Focus-Adapter-for-Leica-M-LM-Lens-to-Leica-L-Mount-Typ701-Typ-601/174336125058?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

It does reduce the focus distance abit but its not as much as I have hoped. I could still focus to infinity but using my 90APO Im still focusing a fair way away (maybe 85cm instead of 100cm) I've tried it with all of my M lenses and none of them allows me to get real close. The 35mm is about the closest but because of the short focal length the image is still not very big. Am I doing something wrong? Or have I got a faulty ring that doesnt extend enough? 

[wjdrijfhout]

This adapter is new to me. It looks like it is a combined M>L adapter with a little bit of close-focusing capability. The official Leica macro-adapter provides a much longer distance between lens and camera: https://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Technical-Equipment/Adapter/Macro-Adapter-M. And note that this adapter has M-mount on both sides, so comes between a normal M>L adapter and the M-lens. From the description it looks like you could use your adapter as a regular M>L adapter and stack a Leica macro-adapter on top. 

Edited October 20, 2020 by wjdrijfhout

[Ktsa5239]

What would the advantage be in stacking two together?

[wjdrijfhout]

No other advantage than making use of your macro-adapter as an M to L adapter. 

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[agencal]

On 10/3/2020 at 5:18 AM, Einst_Stein said:

I have a heliocord for Rodenstock APO-Rodagon-D 75mm f4 macro lens. They work nicely up to 1:1.

like this:  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M42-42mm-Lens-to-Leica-L-Mount-TL2-TL-CL-SL2-SL-Adapter-Macro-Focusing-Helicoid/264634665776?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3d9d748b30:g:c9oAAOSwWZVeRyJ9&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%2Fn%2BzU5L90Z278x5ickkXKoKcbeZcOrOku%2BoOBl%2BS8UckmhpJ4E0m0MLjROG1CLjoYwXFlPUtuP8vS%2F4aVRyCeRqvLrAWNF46iI3e2zD0YDRB1fV4OOtkL03jbndBFubTZ3e44O6ELcOP9Bot0bGRuqlbL1W8kkOjQHI7dZwoOM2SzBtnVOWbEfr%2Bc5U62jmI09gfEWHD4N%2Bv3qDNYKh3XW4sqyzMUiVe7eeMnj03I%2FRhLAcmiHrQ1usQzCBwkowTTGT2w9x4NpYy7un8w4PApHE3SKt8WbMuy2RH7AB9EUmysivsLMP5v2h4hxvU7%2Fs2wS5EAWzRRLucZfP0aqmE3JhUnsNuh1s1hJQDZ8Mt1NFSL%2BFzX2SCT2dvWhDQcnkb88H9NomQ11pWlUEtEXzje21yzhO5jc%2FaQJlLcu6F26TY06Wi%2FuX3K9OS3ARvZ7GY76nCe3mr%2BUdQ4nboYVgUeO%2BfyfDtkh9YfYJads586dmg%2BI3ULfpTsx8CGr%2FHzM1G0QymZvhTBrZ0BOZHSnpKhFhsmg2QQdUBBNMXKdGLS3%2BsjUAtRZvoGhfa3007NjcU2SvS4Yz0FtXsbjlwq%2FATg7xMizSZY0%2BLGQNaePDaA970BhnIHgrvsLmDom3NX%2B%2Fe1gmnBa3clsNDie6I5WNdAJOfA3n%2FU9QqeT9H0wVs2ul%2FykdY08roN7vrY3ATaMBkHDZFLhL9TzRZc9t6CLMjW3UimXIbSRHCV8hcFDsJhq7Hn0n1dSGPERspSTFbDdjmUWzV2VbJuju%2F%2BB6MH8Gqqx%2FTpDaZ6MWdU3CLpKNaA%3D%3D|cksum%3A264634665776f399aab9d6bc443887974e3d0c670290|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2334524

 

Rodenstock apo rodagon is an enlarger lens and it is m39 screw mount but this adapter is m42 to sl. Am i missing something?