Darktable and Leica Presets?

[01maciel]

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Am 9.10.2024 um 21:26 schrieb mnsh:

Have any other members got to grips with it?

Yes, I have. I can repeat over and over again that dt is a great tool once you have get into the basics and the effect of the (many) functions. For private use, it can keep up with any other commercial tool. dt might be slightly better in some areas, but not in others, ymmv of course. Your photo looks a bit dull. The sky seems to be overexposed, dt doesn't correct this automatically because the colour information is missing and leaves it up to you to decide how the whole thing should look. Imo, the colours are also greatly reduced, as is the contrast. There are videos on each of these topics on YouTube. If you would like to share the DNG, others can also take part in editing the image. If you exchange the side-car files (.xmp), dt can apply all the settings and you can see what has been changed.

[LocalHero1953]

Can anyone point me to a review of Darktable's raw conversion results compared to LR and/or C1?
Is it possible to import files from LR complete with edits (i.e. DNG + sidecar files)?

[mnsh]

Hi Paul

I have begun looking at this photographer's guide to that

https://mel365.com/darktable-vs-lightroom/

and also this video, oneof a series, I think the photographer may be based in the Lake District

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SflKR6JYrk

but I have only just started on this (retirement / holiday is giving a bit more time).  You can import all your tags from LR into darktable so long as you save the metadata to file first in LR.  From what I've read, many, but not all, of your edits are also transferable.

Matthew

PS I liked your photo of the Trinity choir up the tower and often enjoyed going to listen to them and the brass ensemble  in Great Court, and then the singing on the river in the evening.

Edited October 11, 2024 by mnsh
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[mnsh]

1 hour ago, 01maciel said:

Yes, I have. I can repeat over and over again that dt is a great tool once you have get into the basics and the effect of the (many) functions. For private use, it can keep up with any other commercial tool. dt might be slightly better in some areas, but not in others, ymmv of course. Your photo looks a bit dull. The sky seems to be overexposed, dt doesn't correct this automatically because the colour information is missing and leaves it up to you to decide how the whole thing should look. Imo, the colours are also greatly reduced, as is the contrast. There are videos on each of these topics on YouTube. If you would like to share the DNG, others can also take part in editing the image. If you exchange the side-car files (.xmp), dt can apply all the settings and you can see what has been changed.

That's very kind.  Since a DNG is 10MB I have made a Dropbox link for it and there are two xmp files maybe because I had more than one go at it, the later file gives the picture I posted.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/e2a5lcje1uas851rf08qs/AFcKaPFhKqFZWZD2DBiw6qs?rlkey=ks4ve1pafd1nojocynjhsozi8&st=8gqlkzsi&dl=0

[01maciel]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb mnsh:

Since a DNG is 10MB I have made a Dropbox link for it and there are two xmp files maybe because I had more than one go at it, the later file gives the picture I posted.

I managed to download the DNG somehow as I have no dropbox account. I am not allowed to upload the xmp or any other file so here is my attempt in dt. The photo is one of the more challenging ones. I did a lot on it, as there are different parts of the photo that are either overexposed (sky, rocks), need more contrast than other areas (in focus area) - I also masked the area for sharpening. I did also some slight adjustments on color calibration. The result is what it is: edited to my taste😊 Have a look to the history log of my editing

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Edited October 11, 2024 by 01maciel

[01maciel]

here you go, the xmp file

L2071020.DNG.xmp

[mnsh]

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1 hour ago, 01maciel said:

I managed to download the DNG somehow as I have no dropbox account. I am not allowed to upload the xmp or any other file so here is my attempt in dt. The photo is one of the more challenging ones. I did a lot on it, as there are different parts of the photo that are either overexposed (sky, rocks), need more contrast than other areas (in focus area) - I also masked the area for sharpening. I did also some slight adjustments on color calibration. The result is what it is: edited to my taste😊 Have a look to the history log of my editing

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Yes that is much better than my first attempt, thank you.  I have now re-loaded the picture with your xmp file and will work through your history stack.  White balance in the far north of Scotland can be challenging with the low sun which makes for splendid autumn colours at the moment.  I find watery scenes interesting to do WB with as the water wants to look cool (c4000K) but the vegetation needs to be warmer (c 5500K) and it's different if the sun is shining or cloudy.  Here's one I could do better with, and just the default processing that darktable is doing without any tweaking by me.  Give me a few weeks and I should be able to post an improved version.  We've been coming north for holidays for a long time and it's part of the fun.  I have an Expodisc and a Colour Balance Lens but don't use them as much as I could, getting the dog to stand still while I'm taking the photo occipies one hand!

[LocalHero1953]

7 hours ago, mnsh said:

PS I liked your photo of the Trinity choir up the tower and often enjoyed going to listen to them and the brass ensemble  in Great Court, and then the singing on the river in the evening.

Thank you! I have a good relationship with the choir - I spent a morning with them last week, taking informal shots of rehearsals as they integrate quite a large intake of freshers before the new term. Plus a new director, Steven Grahl replacing Stephen Layton. As a singer myself, it's great to watch such talent (both choir and director) at work. I'll post some here in the next few days. Somewhere I have some shots of them singing on the river taken from the top of the Wren Library.

Edit: I've just realised you live locally. I'll PM you.

 

Edited October 11, 2024 by LocalHero1953

[01maciel]

@mnsh Have fun. If you get bored in the meantime there are some very good video out there- in particular here:

https://discuss.pixls.us/t/editing-moments-with-darktable/11770/1094

[PeterD]

I just found this list after doing an extensive Google search. It's just what I wanted! Thanks all! 

I've used RT and DT over the years as I am 100% Linux these days - have been for years. Until about ten or twelve years ago I used to keep a PC for processing using Photoshop Express (often with Nik add-ons, principally SilverEFX), but that started to acquire too many bits that I wasn't interested in. I really used to like its simplicity and speed. As I migrated away I used GIMP more and more with DT. It really is a great shame that neither Adobe nor DxO support Linux. I understand the Adobe situation, but why DxO won't despite much pleading, I don't understand.

At one point I used LightZone, but by and large I found it lacking in functionality and support. Now I am not sure whether, in reality, it gets much more than nominal maintenance. Does anyone know?

Just my 2p.

Peter

BTW @LocalHero1953 the singing in Cambridge is great pretty much wherever you go among the colleges. My daughter sang for Emmanuel and my best friend's son was at King's. I became enamoured of the music over many years.

Edited November 4 by PeterD
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[PeterD]

Downloaded ART. Looks interesting, will give it a try!

[LocalHero1953]

2 hours ago, PeterD said:

BTW @LocalHero1953 the singing in Cambridge is great pretty much wherever you go among the colleges. My daughter sang for Emmanuel and my best friend's son was at King's. I became enamoured of the music over many years.

Yes, one can get to some wonderful performances here (a week or so ago). Aside from paid concerts, many of the colleges still observe Evensong, which the public can join - from time to time I go, just as a respite from the cares of the world.

Edited November 4 by LocalHero1953