Dennis Posted August 22, 2020 Share #1 Posted August 22, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was just wondering how great it would be to know the VF blockage of each 35mm lens, with pictures. Like a screenshot of your beautiful OVF with your/s favorite 35mm lenses. Here mine: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 (0.73x) Zeiss Biogon 35mm f/2.8 Original Zeiss lens hood for 35mm An incredible and tiny lens. But this is what happens when the hood is on. Does it bother you or not? Better a filter instead? How does your 35mm VF (and blockage) look like? Feel free to post more than a photo if you wish, as long as the lens, camera (w/ magnification) and the hood are specified, we're all happy. Sharing is caring 🙌 Good vibes 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 (0.73x) Zeiss Biogon 35mm f/2.8 Original Zeiss lens hood for 35mm An incredible and tiny lens. But this is what happens when the hood is on. Does it bother you or not? Better a filter instead? How does your 35mm VF (and blockage) look like? Feel free to post more than a photo if you wish, as long as the lens, camera (w/ magnification) and the hood are specified, we're all happy. Sharing is caring 🙌 Good vibes ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4031117'>More sharing options...
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250swb Posted August 22, 2020 Share #2 Posted August 22, 2020 Doesn't bother me, but if you can't move the camera a fraction to see the area blocked, or use memory, then you have a big problem. The more you use a lens the more you'll know intuitively what is going on around the edges and before long you won't realise it was ever an issue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 22, 2020 Share #3 Posted August 22, 2020 No bother for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted August 22, 2020 Share #4 Posted August 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Dennis said: M10 (0.73x) Zeiss Biogon 35mm f/2.8 Original Zeiss lens hood for 35mm Far better : https://www.shapeways.com/product/GRQAPSDQB/voigtlander-nokton-35mm-1-4-lens-hood-v5 ............... Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 22, 2020 Share #5 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Why 'far better'? Anybody who has ever started to wear glasses can adapt to the frames and before long they aren't taken into acoount, you see around the frame. I'm just suggesting this because in particular Leica photographers feel the need to buy something to solve a problem that isn't a problem. Edited August 22, 2020 by 250swb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 22, 2020 Share #6 Posted August 22, 2020 With some practices, these "problems" become "no problems anymore". Newcomers to Leica M world see (?) so many troubles (or flaws related to the system) that old M users don't see anymore. That said, I appreciate the less VF blockage (if any) of Canon LTM 1.2/50mm comparing to my Noctilux 1.0. But in so many other domains, I prefer using Noctilux 1.0 with it's many flaws. As I'm lazy, I don't have the 35mm "VF blockage" pics to share, sorry. From memory, those older small wonders ( 35 Summilux, Summicron I to IV , 35 Summaron 2.8/3.5...) have less than asph. more modern lenses. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 22, 2020 Share #7 Posted August 22, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I’ve owned my 35 Summicron ASPH for many years and frankly couldn’t tell you how much of the VF (now M10 or MM) it blocked. Somehow it just disappears over time and becomes a non-issue. So I just checked and a relatively small lower right section is blocked by the hood, which always stays on. I just acquired a 1960 35 Summaron f2.8, and it’s so compact (with a deeply recessed front element that negates any need for a hood) that VF blockage is minimal. I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if Leica eventually releases one of their super-fast beasts (Noctilux?) in 35mm that blocks a significant part of the VF, and which is better suited using accessory EVF or adapted to the SL. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 22, 2020 Share #8 Posted August 22, 2020 35mm Nokton f/1.4 II, no hood (never use one). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4031624'>More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted August 23, 2020 I'm not bother by the minimum VF blockage of my 35mm Biogon. I would prefer than not, but it still make the whole process to shoot with Leica M amazing. I just wonder if I could live with the VF Block. of a Zeiss 35 1.5 Distagon for example. I never tried. But it would be a great 35mm for me, I know it. But as said here: 5 hours ago, a.noctilux said: With some practices, these "problems" become "no problems anymore". Newcomers to Leica M world see (?) so many troubles (or flaws related to the system) that old M users don't see anymore. I'm embracing, day by day, all the Leica mood and package 🤣 I know my limitations compared to other system. But these limitations, they set me free 🙌 But I'm still avid of Leica knowledge, to try many things. I like a lot the fact that the system can be hacked. 4 hours ago, adan said: 35mm Nokton f/1.4 II, no hood (never use one). Do you use filter instead, to protect the lens? Or just ready to rumble? Just curios. I use hood only for protection. I can be rough sometimes, I need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckuwajima Posted August 23, 2020 Share #10 Posted August 23, 2020 This is the view from a M4 with Summilux-M Pre-Asph set at infinite. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4031958'>More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted August 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, ckuwajima said: This is the view from a M4 with Summilux-M Pre-Asph set at infinite. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That is a very light blockage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 23, 2020 Share #12 Posted August 23, 2020 Keep in mind that frame lines shift to the lower right (for parallax correction) as one focuses closer. The least frame line blockage will occur at infinity focus. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted August 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jeff S said: Keep in mind that frame lines shift to the lower right (for parallax correction) as one focuses closer. The least frame line blockage will occur at infinity focus. Jeff Yes, I know. Thank you Jeff. I was reading a review on the Distagon 1.4, and check the VF blockage at infinity, 1 and 2 meters. It changes from 8-12% w/o hood, and 14-18% w/ hood. Interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 23, 2020 Share #14 Posted August 23, 2020 Please excuse my less than "good view", as I've never done VF pics, but out of curiosity I took my courage to do some today. Only right/bottom part with 35mm frame lines "at best" ...set focus to infinity 1- Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! V1 35mm Summilux-M asph. + hood 2 - without hood 35mm Summilux-M asph. 3- This last view for reference of the most "frame blockage" (obviously worse in 28mm setting 😉) Tri-Elmar-M 28/35/50 ...MATE, set to 35mm I wonder how my wife (and myself before) manage to "frame" with our Leica M + Mate 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! V1 35mm Summilux-M asph. + hood 2 - without hood 35mm Summilux-M asph. 3- This last view for reference of the most "frame blockage" (obviously worse in 28mm setting 😉) Tri-Elmar-M 28/35/50 ...MATE, set to 35mm I wonder how my wife (and myself before) manage to "frame" with our Leica M + Mate 😁 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4032120'>More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted August 23, 2020 Very helpful information, thank you for sharing. The hood of the summilux is beautiful. Very good little blockage + window 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted August 23, 2020 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It's the Zeiss Distagon 1.4 with another hood. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It's the Zeiss Distagon 1.4 with another hood. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4032133'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 23, 2020 Share #17 Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Dennis said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It's the Zeiss Distagon 1.4 with another hood. But you've just brought the camera up to your eye and in that split second you forgot what would be in the bottom right corner of the frame? Much is said a out 'the decisive moment' in Leica photography, but it is based on something real, you anticipate and see the possibility in a situation and the framing is already determined as you raise the camera. If you know your lens you only need two other edges of the frame to rapidly compose and shoot the picture. You need to remember what you see beforehand and not treat it like it's a surprise when the camera gets to your face. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted August 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, 250swb said: But you've just brought the camera up to your eye and in that split second you forgot what would be in the bottom right corner of the frame? Much is said a out 'the decisive moment' in Leica photography, but it is based on something real, you anticipate and see the possibility in a situation and the framing is already determined as you raise the camera. If you know your lens you only need two other edges of the frame to rapidly compose and shoot the picture. You need to remember what you see beforehand and not treat it like it's a surprise when the camera gets to your face. Nice point of view your are saying here. And it's true. I would prefer to see 100% free inside my frame lines, ideally. But I'm fine too with 1/4 of the VF sacrificed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 24, 2020 Share #19 Posted August 24, 2020 21 hours ago, Dennis said: Do you use filter instead, to protect the lens? Lens caps only. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturk Posted August 24, 2020 Share #20 Posted August 24, 2020 The new replica of the original 35mm Summicron design with eight elements has almost no finder blockage without a hood (which is how I use it). I have a filter mounted here: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! it looks like this from the front: 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! it looks like this from the front: ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4032308'>More sharing options...
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