MarcW Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share #41  Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello again... I didn't upgrade to a TL2 or CL after all. I'll readily admit I'm still tempted, but I got a 2nd Leica T for next to nothing (can't believe how cheap they come, must be the most underrated Leica of all times). So now, I have a T for both the 18-56mm and 55-135mm Vario Elmar. No changing lenses when I'm out. First world problems. Now I'm wondering about two other lenses (and I read everything there is to read on this forum, but nevertheless...) It's about the Summicron 23mm and the Elmarit 18mm "pancake"... Both ranges I have on the Vario Elmar, which is a bit slower and bigger. What I would like to ask is will the IQ from these primes be significantly better than what I get from the Vario Elmar? Or is the difference more or less negligible? I do like the versatility of the 18-56mm, but if there is room for improvement I'm often tempted to give it a try. The 35mm 1.4 is out of my league. As is the 11-23mm Super Vario Elmar, which I would consider as a possibility nevertheless... Thank you very much in advance! 😀  Edited December 23, 2020 by MarcW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tommonego@gmail.com Posted December 23, 2020 Share #42 Â Posted December 23, 2020 I really like my 23 Summicron, keep it for when you need a fast lens. The slow speed of the Leica zooms have kept me from buying one. The one I think about the most is the 11-23, but I have an excellent adapted Tokina 11-16 from my Nikon set and it is an f2.8. Would prefer auto focus in this range but have come to an understanding of the Tokina. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 23, 2020 Share #43  Posted December 23, 2020 I yet have to miss lens speed on my zooms, as they are general purpose lenses. High lens speed is for occasional use. I am not willing to pay the price in bulk and weight 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcW Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share #44  Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, jaapv said: I yet have to miss lens speed on my zooms, as they are general purpose lenses. High lens speed is for occasional use. I am not willing to pay the price in bulk and weight Thanks Jaap, I've been going this over and over again in the past days, think I'll just have to pass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 23, 2020 Share #45  Posted December 23, 2020 We all have our own requirements. I have the CL as I concentrate on travel/landscape, general photography and wildlife, and this camera offers me the versatility and compactness I wish for. Zooms are more practical and I do not miss the high speed. The only fast lens I use (and really like) is the Summilux 24 M. If you want bto go wide, I still have to give the Voigtländer 12 Ultra Wide Heliar a good outing, but my preliminary shots indicate that it is VERY good on the CL, the more so as I got it at 599 Euro - new in box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcW Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share #46  Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, jaapv said: We all have our own requirements. I have the CL as I concentrate on travel/landscape, general photography and wildlife, and this camera offers me the versatility and compactness I wish for. Zooms are more practical and I do not miss the high speed. The only fast lens I use (and really like) is the Summilux 24 M. If you want bto go wide, I still have to give the Voigtländer 12 Ultra Wide Heliar a good outing, but my preliminary shots indicate that it is VERY good on the CL, the more so as I got it at 599 Euro - new in box. Which adapter do you use for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 24, 2020 Share #47 Â Posted December 24, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Leica L-M adapter, but as focus magnification is not very relevant for short focal lengths you can use any third party adapter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpille Posted December 24, 2020 Share #48  Posted December 24, 2020 14 hours ago, MarcW said: Hello again... I didn't upgrade to a TL2 or CL after all. I'll readily admit I'm still tempted, but I got a 2nd Leica T for next to nothing (can't believe how cheap they come, must be the most underrated Leica of all times). So now, I have a T for both the 18-56mm and 55-135mm Vario Elmar. No changing lenses when I'm out. First world problems. Now I'm wondering about two other lenses (and I read everything there is to read on this forum, but nevertheless...) It's about the Summicron 23mm and the Elmarit 18mm "pancake"... Both ranges I have on the Vario Elmar, which is a bit slower and bigger. What I would like to ask is will the IQ from these primes be significantly better than what I get from the Vario Elmar? Or is the difference more or less negligible? I do like the versatility of the 18-56mm, but if there is room for improvement I'm often tempted to give it a try. The 35mm 1.4 is out of my league. As is the 11-23mm Super Vario Elmar, which I would consider as a possibility nevertheless... Thank you very much in advance! 😀  The extra quality brought by the 18 mm is marginal when the light is there. The zooms are very good (18-56mm) and excellent (11-23mm). The big advantage for the 18mm is its size and weight which makes the leica T a very pleasant camera to use (with one hand) and which focuses very quickly. The 23mm is above the 18mm in terms of quality but also bigger. The color rendering is very good and the image is more subtle in my opinion. Despite this, the 18mm is for me the reference on the T, just like the 18-56 (+ 23 or ev. 35mm) is on the CL  3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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