Jeff S Posted June 27, 2020 Share #41 Posted June 27, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mike Johnston (TOP) has long been a fan of 40 mm. I think that I would be troubled by lack of coupled frame lines on an M, but I’ve never given it a try. Many here swear by it; others stay clear. As always. https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/why-40mm.html Jeff 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dennis Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #42 Posted June 27, 2020 Awesome. Thank you Jeff. reading in three, two, one .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share #43 Posted July 12, 2020 the CV 35 Ultron 1.7 is the winner between all my 35 options. But I'm super curious to try out a 40mm. It's a very interesting FL. And I guess, you love it or you hate it, no compromise. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlore Posted July 27, 2020 Share #44 Posted July 27, 2020 I think 40/2 Rokkor is very soft at f2, similar to Voigtlander 35/1.4mc VM. The Nokton 35/1.7 is sharp at f1.7 but quite a lot of Chroma and purple fringing. You might check on the new Voigtlander 35/2 Nokton. I am tempting to buy at one as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 27, 2020 Share #45 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, sutlore said: I think 40/2 Rokkor is very soft at f2 My Rokkor 40/2 for Minolta CLE is not softer than the best 40mm and 35mm non ash lenses like Summicron 40/2 and 35/2 v4 at any aperture including f/2. FWIW. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share #46 Posted July 27, 2020 I can't take out of my mind the CV 40mm 1.2 Asph... I would love to try it out. I investigated more about the 40 FL and it's amazing. It could be an interested option for what I'm looking for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojay Posted July 27, 2020 Share #47 Posted July 27, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 minutes ago, Dennis said: I can't take out of my mind the CV 40mm 1.2 Asph... I would love to try it out. I investigated more about the 40 FL and it's amazing. It could be an interested option for what I'm looking for I wouldn't dream of trying to give examples up to your standards Dennis, but I have 35 pre Asph and FLE, 50 Lux Asph, but also often find myself using the CV40mm 1.2, I really like how it renders and as long as the compromise re frame lines doesn't bother you I'm sure you would enjoy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share #48 Posted July 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Boojay said: I wouldn't dream of trying to give examples up to your standards Dennis, but I have 35 pre Asph and FLE, 50 Lux Asph, but also often find myself using the CV40mm 1.2, I really like how it renders and as long as the compromise re frame lines doesn't bother you I'm sure you would enjoy it. Great! One more fan of the 40mm FL. It's curious that I have only a 35mm and a 50mm for my M10, and now I'm looking for to add a 40mm. It's about 15mm range for three FL 😂 About the 50 frame lines for the 40mm, I guess it's just practice. For any FL on a RF, you don't get a precise composition, so 10-15% less or more, I don't think is making a difference. It's the M philosophy to guesstimate and enjoy more the process 🙌 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2020 Share #49 Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Dennis said: Great! One more fan of the 40mm FL. It's curious that I have only a 35mm and a 50mm for my M10, and now I'm looking for to add a 40mm. It's about 15mm range for three FL 😂 About the 50 frame lines for the 40mm, I guess it's just practice. For any FL on a RF, you don't get a precise composition, so 10-15% less or more, I don't think is making a difference. It's the M philosophy to guesstimate and enjoy more the process 🙌 230 page thread on the "fred miranda" sony forum about this lens,google FM review voigtlander 40mm f1.2 nokton FM forums......i think the sony version is the same lens with a different mount but there is also stuff on the thread about the lens on leica cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted July 31, 2020 Share #50 Posted July 31, 2020 Nokton 40mm f/1.2 on the M10. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310888-a-fast-35mm-partner-for-my-zm-2835/?do=findComment&comment=4018621'>More sharing options...
Dennis Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share #51 Posted July 31, 2020 6 hours ago, akiralx said: Nokton 40mm f/1.2 on the M10 Oh yeah! Interesting DOP. Do you like the IQ? Did you get used to the 40FL with the 50 frame lines? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted August 1, 2020 Share #52 Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 11:58 PM, Dennis said: Oh yeah! Interesting DOP. Do you like the IQ? Did you get used to the 40FL with the 50 frame lines? Yes it seems a fairly modern, cool look - a bit like the Summarits. The framelines are OK, not ideal but fine to work with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted August 2, 2020 Share #53 Posted August 2, 2020 I'd recommend a higher ISO sensor and just stick with the Biogon-C. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob L Posted August 2, 2020 Share #54 Posted August 2, 2020 CV also offers the new Nokton 35 f/1.2. A very similar performing and similar design to the 40 1.2 https://shop.cameraquest.com/voigtlander-leica-mount-lenses/voigtlander-35mm-f/1.2-nokton-iii-aspherical/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share #55 Posted August 2, 2020 21 hours ago, james.liam said: I'd recommend a higher ISO sensor and just stick with the Biogon-C. With a sensor of the M10M I would tell you yes. Also, sometimes I enjoy a shallow DOP, but I usually mostly at f/5.6 with my M10. 7 hours ago, Rob L said: CV also offers the new Nokton 35 f/1.2. A very similar performing and similar design to the 40 1.2 https://shop.cameraquest.com/voigtlander-leica-mount-lenses/voigtlander-35mm-f/1.2-nokton-iii-aspherical/ I never tried, but I heard about it. Similar performance, but heavier and bigger. Weight I don't care because it's for limited use only. But VF blockage is huge. I skip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share #56 Posted August 19, 2020 Re-taking the thread, because I have a doubt. I was recently reading about the 35mm F/1.2 III Asph, which has great performance. But @f/1.2, it's definitely not sharp, it's very soft. The reason I would love a super fast 35mm, it's as companion for my 2.8/35 ZM Biogon. Which is razor sharp. But I would love sometimes, not always, these extra two stops. Are there any 35mm, no Leica glass, (but for Leica M mount) 1.2 or 1.4 maximum, but sharp? And possibly not as pricey as the Distagon 1.4 ... Possibly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share #57 Posted August 19, 2020 I can live with big vignette, I still have PP. But soft @f1.2 or 1.4, no way. I know the CV Ultron 1.7 is very sharp, but not 1.4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrostl Posted August 19, 2020 Share #58 Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) Depends on where you want the "sharpness". I now own a CV 35/1.2 III, a ZM 35/1.4, and a ZM 35/2.8. The CV 35/1.2 III is plenty sharp in the center at 1.2/1.4 for me. Edited August 19, 2020 by astrostl "now" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiver Posted August 19, 2020 Share #59 Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, astrostl said: Depends on where you want the "sharpness". I now own a CV 35/1.2 III, a ZM 35/1.4, and a ZM 35/2.8. The CV 35/1.2 III is plenty sharp in the center at 1.2/1.4 for me. I have a CV 35/1.2 v1 (original version) and I tried the Zeiss 35/1.4 in a shop, and was frankly wowed by the performance of the Zeiss wide open. Very sharp, with smooth bokeh and a lot of contrast. How is the Nokton v3 compared with the Zeiss Distagon at f1.2 and 1.4? How is the size and weight of the v3? The Zeiss size and weight is at the edge of what I could comfortably carry and work with on a long day of shooting and travel. Edited August 19, 2020 by Archiver 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted August 19, 2020 Share #60 Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) To the OP. What are you going to shoot wide open in the streets for visual storytelling purposes??? Street portraits? Night scenes? Trying to get anything in manual focus wide open in the street is quite difficult for moving subjects, however i have seen it done with quite amount of skill required Edited August 19, 2020 by cboy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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