setuporg Posted June 16, 2020 Share #1 Posted June 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) After enjoying M10, my first Leica since it came out, and adding M246, Edition 60, and now M10M, I came upon a great M9M and couldn't help getting it. I expect to have it in a few days! The motivation is the CCD sensor, different from all the others I have in all my Leicas. I'm also a huge fan of history and the very first products that only Leica could imagine and build -- a screenless M, the Edition 60, and the original Monochrom. I'll keep the M246 as it's the only M I have that does video and B&W video is something nothing else does or probably will do for a long time, if ever. With the M10M being probably the greatest M ever made, there are many questions on whether the M9M will get fresh air alongside the others. I found that I could easily carry 3 M bodies around when comparing M10M, M246, and M10. So I can envision comparing all three Monochroms or having the M9M around for its own special strengths/differences. I'm used to carrying a heavy setup so another M is nothing. I wonder about the batteries, I heard they are not as long-lasting as even the M10s, not to mention the M246s. But there are generic 14464 ones on Amazon, going for about $20. Is it advisable to use those? Overall, I wonder if anyone else here uses all three generations of the digital Ms, and what your experiences are! I'm excited to be a part of history with the M9 platform that started it all over again for Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted June 16, 2020 Share #2 Posted June 16, 2020 One more advanture 😉. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296008-monochrom-ccd-first-compared-to-m246-cmos/#comments Have fun ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted June 16, 2020 Share #3 Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, setuporg said: After enjoying M10, my first Leica since it came out, and adding M246, Edition 60, and now M10M, I came upon a great M9M and couldn't help getting it. I expect to have it in a few days! The motivation is the CCD sensor, different from all the others I have in all my Leicas. I'm also a huge fan of history and the very first products that only Leica could imagine and build -- a screenless M, the Edition 60, and the original Monochrom. I'll keep the M246 as it's the only M I have that does video and B&W video is something nothing else does or probably will do for a long time, if ever. With the M10M being probably the greatest M ever made, there are many questions on whether the M9M will get fresh air alongside the others. I found that I could easily carry 3 M bodies around when comparing M10M, M246, and M10. So I can envision comparing all three Monochroms or having the M9M around for its own special strengths/differences. I'm used to carrying a heavy setup so another M is nothing. I wonder about the batteries, I heard they are not as long-lasting as even the M10s, not to mention the M246s. But there are generic 14464 ones on Amazon, going for about $20. Is it advisable to use those? Overall, I wonder if anyone else here uses all three generations of the digital Ms, and what your experiences are! I'm excited to be a part of history with the M9 platform that started it all over again for Leica. I have an m9p and if I correctly remember (....) I get about 400-450 shots per battery. How this compares to the m10 I’ve no idea... (but you will) There’s various horror stories about using aftermarket batteries (from every camera brand) I used them without issue with my Fujis, but with the Leicas I’ve always used genuine ones, largely because it’s just worked out that way rather than any great fear of aftermarket ones... but if you feel concern it’s best to go genuine. Enjoy the camera and congratulations 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, a.noctilux said: One more adventure 😉. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296008-monochrom-ccd-first-compared-to-m246-cmos/#comments Have fun ... Indeed! I believe that Leica is the only company that accomplished a rare feat where a digital camera is seen as a whole package with its history, handling, monochrome only sensors or screenless backs. I feel compelled to follow the whole arc of that history myself and experience it from the beginning. I can hardly imagine how the M10M will be bettered though five years on... Having MM1 is like having the Edition 60, the first monochrome camera, the first screenless! Are you still using both MM1 and M246? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted June 16, 2020 Share #5 Posted June 16, 2020 Yes, I still use both. Honestly, I use less the Monochrom MM1 comparing to when before buying the M246. In turn, carrying the MM1 + light lenses is a joy, and I do appreciate more the permanent frame lines as on film M. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 16, 2020 Share #6 Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, a.noctilux said: ...and I do appreciate more the permanent frame lines as on film M. Illuminated by natural light rather than electronically. Unfortunately (IMO) the M9 M frame lines are optimized for 1m rather than 2m, as on subsequent models based on M 240 or M10 platforms. Preferences and trade offs. Jeff Edited June 16, 2020 by Jeff S 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted June 17, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) @Jeff S -- what does it men, 1m or 2m? 1 meter or 2 meters, as the distance to the foreground target? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 17, 2020 Share #8 Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) RF framing is optimized for a subject at one meter distance; otherwise the actual file contains more or less than indicated in the VF, depending if the subject is farther or closer. My typical subject matter is typically beyond 1m. The original M8 was set for .7m; the M8.2 for 2m like the M240 and M10. With practice one learns to gauge what's in or out of frame, and RF framing requires approximation and judgment anyway, but I just find the longer distance better as a starting point. Switching between my M10 and MM requires a bit of adjustment. I don't use the EVF or LV with my Ms. Jeff Edited June 17, 2020 by Jeff S 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted June 17, 2020 Share #9 Posted June 17, 2020 As a fellow M60 user, I am also thinking of getting an MM1, just haven't found it yet, let us know your thoughts on the three mono. My M9 generic battery experience was a nightmare, the battery caused issues with the camera readout of battery life, the Leica charger worked okay but had hiccups because of the generic battery. The camera never had issues with the Leica batteries, so I stick with them despite the price. The battery life of M10 vs. M9 is a bit tricky, the M9 doesn't have live view or evf so it is quite good, the M10 with rangefinder has better or similar battery life to the M9 (iirc), with evf or live view the M10 drains quicker. Despite battery life, the need for a spare is ever-present for the not infrequent camera bag draining. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 17, 2020 Share #10 Posted June 17, 2020 15 hours ago, setuporg said: Overall, I wonder if anyone else here uses all three generations of the digital Ms ..... Nope. Still using the historical M9. Its still fit for purpose as a low ISO camera and I've yet to be persuaded to upgrade (an SL might be useful though🙂). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted June 17, 2020 Share #11 Posted June 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, pgk said: (an SL might be useful though🙂). The $$ is rock bottom and plentiful supply. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted June 17, 2020 Share #12 Posted June 17, 2020 Concerning batteries for M8/9, some good surprises (much more than four years of hard use) and some bad, https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/297176-battery-problem/?do=findComment&comment=3777414 side note, I use only Leica 14464 batteries. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 17, 2020 Share #13 Posted June 17, 2020 I am still using at least one battery from my M8 in my M9 - its old. Only one has actually died so far although another has heated up once during charging but seems ok again now - I keep an eye on it. That said ALL my batteries are from Leica and I wouldn't use anything else. I have a camera repairer friend who is scathing about lithium batteries and won't have old ones in the house! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted June 17, 2020 Share #14 Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) One experience I'll never forget, from a company with a good reputation. AA batteries in a charger, I happened to find it on fire as I entered my bedroom with my wife sleeping 6 feet away. I was able to put it out, with no damage except to the charger and batteries. I now prefer slow chargers with less heat and power. One more reason for genuine Leica batteries. Edited June 17, 2020 by darylgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 18, 2020 Share #15 Posted June 18, 2020 My M9 battery is still the original one bought in 2009. I did once buy a cheaper (but not that much cheaper) third-party battery as backup. I soon got rid of it as it was as useful as powering my camera with a banana. It's my own fault. I'm always saying that I can't afford to buy cheap, and that was another example why. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted June 19, 2020 Share #16 Posted June 19, 2020 Sorry. Where are threads about third party batteries even in this sub forum. I use them because I'm not in every digital made M income bracket. Would I be as smart as OP, wouldn't even bother and not scrooge on OEM M9 battery. Sorry. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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