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Yeah. Seeing some brass peeking at the top front and back corners on mine 😢 currently at 6284 exposures

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Am 16.6.2020 um 07:55 schrieb Charadis:

Yeah. Seeing some brass peeking at the top front and back corners on mine 😢 currently at 6284 exposures

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How did you get that MP-style engraving on top? Any idea if Leica still offers something like this?

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19 hours ago, jowatt said:

How did you get that MP-style engraving on top? Any idea if Leica still offers something like this?

 

You can have it done through Leica's Customer Care! Just send them an e-mail and they will give instructions. I bought one of the refurbed a La Carte M9 bodies last year and requested it through Michel, who took care of the original order and the engraving order (sent the camera back for this, and sapphire crystal LCD cover upgrade). 

Here is the linky: 

https://us.leica-camera.com/Service-Support/Services/Leica-Individualisation

I just requested for the same script and text as the M9-P. Looks like it was always with the camera from manufacture. 

On mine, a slightly smaller font of "Leica" script may have been used, so it seems the alignment more closely resembles the print/script position found on top of Japanese M7 bodies where it is off-centered on the top plate (there is more space above the script, even though the bottom print is in the exact same position as the M9-P). 

Perhaps, I am over analyzing this too much 😏

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They do a lovely job overall though. 

 

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On 6/21/2020 at 8:18 AM, Charadis said:

...I bought one of the refurbed a La Carte M9 bodies...On mine, a slightly smaller font of "Leica" script may have been used...

This might be standard practice on the Factory Refurbished bodies.

I picked up a refurb'd and engraved Monochrom Mk1 in silver-chrome and it, too, has the smaller 'Leica' logo on the top-plate...BUT!...having compared the dimensions of the scripts on my M-D Typ-262, my MM1 and my M2 the smaller script of the MM1 shares both height and width with the M2!

M-D : Length 20mm; Height 10mm.

M2 and MM1 : Length 19mm; Height 9mm.

By comparison the script on my IIIc is 15mm x 7mm.

Philip.

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12 hours ago, pippy said:

This might be standard practice on the Factory Refurbished bodies.

I picked up a refurb'd and engraved Monochrom Mk1 in silver-chrome and it, too, has the smaller 'Leica' logo on the top-plate...BUT!...having compared the dimensions of the scripts on my M-D Typ-262, my MM1 and my M2 the smaller script of the MM1 shares both height and width with the M2!

M-D : Length 20mm; Height 10mm.

M2 and MM1 : Length 19mm; Height 9mm.

By comparison the script on my IIIc is 15mm x 7mm.

Philip.

Congrats on the Monochrom! Those were exciting times waiting for our refurbs to ship. I'm glad you posted about yours, I was scouring all over the web to compare other custom "Leica" script engravings. Could not find many examples to compare, other than from Overgaard's postings and some early M9s from a foreign site, so it is nice to have another datapoint. Your analyses piqued my interest, I wonder if there is any justification for the differing font size? 

The picture that Michel showed me that would be engraved matches the M9-P engraving, as the left-side loop falls over the "E" on the block lettering beneath it; however, there is also a lot of space above the script, too. 

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Decided to pull out the M-P Typ 240 and do a side-by-side comparison with my M9, too.

 

That body is slightly ever so larger, so I expected the script to be bigger, too. But if you'll take a closer look, the script seems to align with the shutter speed dial marker on both the 240 and my M9. Drawing a continuous line from the marker cuts through the lower half of the script body, as you can see the "ca" are cut at about the same on both engravings. So this might explain the reasoning behind the smaller font for our models, maybe? Perhaps, that marker was used as a reference point to line up the script... 

 

I notice, however, the M9-P, M10-P and leaked images of the M10-R "Leica" engravings do not line up with the marker. 

Mine measures slightly smaller, at 18mm x 8.5mm. I'm guessing due to differences in the finish account for the thickness of the engraving, or variations? 

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6 hours ago, Charadis said:

...Decided to pull out the M-P Typ 240 and do a side-by-side comparison with my M9, too...

That body is slightly ever so larger, so I expected the script to be bigger, too. But if you'll take a closer look, the script seems to align with the shutter speed dial marker on both the 240 and my M9. Drawing a continuous line from the marker cuts through the lower half of the script body, as you can see the "ca" are cut at about the same on both engravings. So this might explain the reasoning behind the smaller font for our models, maybe? Perhaps, that marker was used as a reference point to line up the script...I notice, however, the M9-P, M10-P and leaked images of the M10-R "Leica" engravings do not line up with the marker......Mine measures slightly smaller, at 18mm x 8.5mm. I'm guessing due to differences in the finish account for the thickness of the engraving, or variations?...

Interesting about the alignment with the speed marker. Well spotted! However this, in itself, wouldn't neccessarily explain the different sizes of logo as regardless of whether it was the smaller or larger logo the whole engraving would only have to be moved a fraction of a millimetre to align in such fashion. I've just checked the engraving on my M-D 262 and it lines-up just the same even although it has the larger logo.

OK, what about this; the original M9 bodies were made in Solms and had the larger size of engraving. The larger logo is, visually, a 'better fit' on the digital-M sized bodies. The refurb'd bodies, OTOH, were assembled in Wetzlar after the release of the M10. The M10, famously, saw the digi-body return to using pretty much the same body-dimensions with the earlier film bodies. Does the M10 have the smaller engraving? The smaller engraving on my MM1 is the same size as that on my M2. Was the smaller logo introduced to be a better (and more historically 'accurate') fit on the reduced size of the new M10 top-plate? If so then perhaps the new tooling for the M10 is the reason the refurb'd bodies have the smaller logo?

Just thinking out loud...

Philip.

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