Smaller SL alternative

[hirohhhh]

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Probably it does not make sense to ask this in SL forum, but I'll start from here

I own SL for a couple years and absolutely love it. But due to its size, I don't carry it all the time with me, so majority of my pictures are done with my phone unfortunately.

I bought Fuji X100F, which is a fantastic small camera, but it's not even close to my SL in terms of IQ, build quality and I don't know, feels different - I never liked it as much as I liked my SL. When I need an exceptional image quality I carry SL, and for all other reasons I carry my Fuji.

Now, I'm wondering is there any Leica camera of a size of a Fuji and with SL IQ and lens versatility. Fuji has fixed lens and adaptor, which is not enough in most cases. And that's all this camera has.

I have many SL lenses and I can make whatever I want with them. Of course, I don't expect to carry all these lenses in my pocket, but I want to be able to have a variety of lenses to choose from.

Edited March 15, 2020 by hirohhhh

[ajmarton1]

I sold my SL and bought the Sony Ar7IV and love it. The LCD resolution is fantastic and I paired it with three prime f/1.8 lenses that are small and light and remind me of the Q I once had.  The eye tracking AF is incredible as is the subject tracking.  Menu system is not that hard to figure out.  Just watch a couple of YouTube videos on how to set it up.  And I have the E-mount to Leica M mount adapter for when I want to use a Leica lens.  The Sony nicely rounds out my M10P and M10 Monochrome combination.  You should check it out.  

 

Andrew

[FlashGordonPhotography]

If you don’t need more than 24MP, which most don’t, then the CL is the obvious answer. Fabulous camera. Great lenses. Use your SL lenses on it if you need.

Gordon

[Jeffry Abt]

Amen! Try the Leica CL  you will absolutely love it! ...the perfect little camera.

Edited March 15, 2020 by Jeffry Abt

[Jk1002]

Leica Q for all the obvious reasons. I am personally curious about the Sigma FP which has L mount so you could use your glas but for sure it would lack the leica simplicity. I realized that when I bought the Sony RX100. 
So Q or CL or maybe TL2 which is on sale these days. 

 

 

[hirohhhh]

Hmm, I have one unsealed CL at home, I should give it a try. I purchased because I like how it looks and wanted to have it, but never unpacked it because I didn't really need it. Maybe it's the time now

[rhwolf]

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Use the CL.  I also have the Fuji.  Does not compare.  Look forward to your impressions.  The lenses are small and amazing.  And it works very well with m-mount lenses.

[Jared]

3 hours ago, hirohhhh said:

Hmm, I have one unsealed CL at home, I should give it a try. I purchased because I like how it looks and wanted to have it, but never unpacked it because I didn't really need it. Maybe it's the time now

Wait, you bought a CL and never even tried it?  Despite owning an SL that you thought was too big and heavy?  That seems a little odd to me.

[hirohhhh]

Not even opened it

I bought it because I like how it looks, but as I have SL and Fuji and S1H and few other cameras I didn't have a need to open it because I wasn't sure if I'll use it enough, so I though let it stay unsealed and I'll see what I'll do with it. I wanted my wife to use it but she's not into photography so she rejected opening an expensive camera just for her.

Edited March 16, 2020 by hirohhhh

[alainD]

Another option to consider is the Signa FP... Full frame, L-mount, very small and compact, great sensor. The only thing I do not like is that it is rather slow to autofocus in low light.

Alain

[Arrow]

For some years, Leica is actually making digital M cameras. I find the SL way superior, but as some smaller size, full frame image taker to capture the one or other ephemeral moment, it should well do  

[Jeff S]

On 3/15/2020 at 8:06 PM, hirohhhh said:

Hmm, I have one unsealed CL at home, I should give it a try. I purchased because I like how it looks and wanted to have it, but never unpacked it because I didn't really need it. Maybe it's the time now

Only on a Leica forum.  Endlessly entertaining.

Jeff

[Guest BlackBarn]

On 3/16/2020 at 7:21 PM, hirohhhh said:

I bought it because I like how it looks,

With you on that.....in the past I collected classical guitar....couldn’t really play  but liked the craftsmanship and looks. Cost a lot more than the CL and co.

[david strachan]

On 3/16/2020 at 4:51 PM, hirohhhh said:

Not even opened it

I bought it because I like how it looks, but as I have SL and Fuji and S1H and few other cameras I didn't have a need to open it because I wasn't sure if I'll use it enough, so I though let it stay unsealed and I'll see what I'll do with it. I wanted my wife to use it but she's not into photography so she rejected opening an expensive camera just for her.

OMG...

what a cracker..🤤

[LocalHero1953]

On 3/16/2020 at 11:37 AM, alainD said:

Another option to consider is the Signa FP... Full frame, L-mount, very small and compact, great sensor. The only thing I do not like is that it is rather slow to autofocus in low light.

Alain

NB The Sigma fp has no viewfinder, which might be a dealbreaker if you're looking for a replacement for the SL. I have the fp, and it is indeed a wonderful camera (build quality, image quality, interface, size) but I use it entirely on a tripod for video.

The CL is the true small alternative to the SL unless you're a full frame obsessive. I went for a bike ride yesterday with my CL and a M lens slung from from my top tube in a small bag. My mind was so far from the present day that when I opened the bag to take a photo I was surprised it wasn't my old M2 in there - similiar size, weight, feel in the hand.

[Per P.]

I was going to respond but it seems you managed to find the CL answer almost on your own. Maybe check the other unopened boxes to see if a Q or M is hiding somewhere ...

[hirohhhh]

18 hours ago, david strachan said:

OMG...

what a cracker..🤤

Yeah, and you're good too today?

[hirohhhh]

15 hours ago, Per P. said:

I was going to respond but it seems you managed to find the CL answer almost on your own. Maybe check the other unopened boxes to see if a Q or M is hiding somewhere ...

Lots of mean people on this forum, it's so disappointing.

[Jeff S]

Mean?  I think it's humorous; so much so that it seems almost an intentional windup to get a reaction. Is it?  You start an entire thread to help you select a camera the size of a Fuji, that acts like an SL.  The CL is Leica's well known alternative to the SL, in a smaller package, even capable of using SL lenses without adapter.  Many here use both, with the CL the smaller sibling.  You not only don't mention it as a possibility, but it turns out that you have one, unwrapped, that you bought because it looked pretty.  It's not an inexpensive camera, too expensive for users of most other systems; not exactly a trinket, and a known part of the L mount system, at least by current owners.  You don't think that's even a little bit amusing or worthy of playfulness?  Unless you're playing with us?

Jeff

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[hirohhhh]

I'm neither super rich, nor stupid to have unopened boxed hidden everywhere without me even knowing. I bought this camera, it was limited edition, meaning you can't buy it now. I wanted to give it as a gift to my wife, but she refuses to use the expensive camera so it remains unopened until today. I'll probably sell it as I don't really need it, because I already use SL and Fuji, so CL would be unnecessary.

In the meantime, an acquaintance who owned both CL and SL and is familiar with the Fuji model I have, confirmed me that CL would be closer to Fuji, than SL in terms of IQ.

The last thing I wanted is to defend myself here, but I hope I clarified the situation about unopened $4500 camera now. It's not wasted money, I can still sell it for the same amount, possibly more, since it is limited edition.

Edited April 2, 2020 by hirohhhh
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