cl: mc21 + canon ef lens question

[gteague]

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i'm casually looking around for a short telephoto for my cl as i only have the 23/2 so far. there's a tl 60mm macro and a sigma 70mm macro, but neither have stabilization which i'm certain to require on the cl for any lens above 50mm equivalent. i just looked up the physical specs on b&h and it is quite a large lens for such a small body at 4.84" long and 1.38 lbs. and the adaptor would add at least an inch to that, so the handling might be a little tricky and involve you driving things from the lens instead of trying to one-hand the body.

i also came across some glowing reviews of the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM today and it can be had in like new condition for around the same price as the sigma. and for my purposes in a rural area, a 150mm lens would be very useful--i shoot my s1 at 200-400 more than 50% of the time. i already have the mc21 adapter and i'm assuming it will work on the cl as that's what is promised by the l-mount alliance.

so here's the question, the canon lens has 2-4 stops of ois. the cl manual says it can take advantage of lens ois, but can the stabilization be transferred through the adaptor? anyone using this adaptor on the cl with ef lenses?

oh, and i'd just like to say that i hope everyone is safe and practicing safe practices. this virus is going to leave no corner untouched.

thanks! /guy

Edited March 15, 2020 by gteague

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[michali]

1 hour ago, gteague said:

i also came across some glowing reviews of the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM today and it can be had in like new condition for around the same price as the sigma. and for my purposes in a rural area, a 150mm lens would be very useful--i shoot my s1 at 200-400 more than 50% of the time. i already have the mc21 adapter and i'm assuming it will work on the cl as that's what is promised by the l-mount alliance.

so here's the question, the canon lens has 2-4 stops of ois. the cl manual says it can take advantage of lens ois, but can the stabilization be transferred through the adaptor? anyone using this adaptor on the cl with ef lenses?

oh, and i'd just like to say that i hope everyone is safe and practicing safe practices. this virus is going to leave no corner untouched.

thanks! /guy

Unfortunately the MC-21 doesn't work on the CL, it only works on the SL2. You can use a dumb adapter, but it the lens will only operate in MF, and no aperture control.

Your other option is to look at the excellent Sigma L mount lenses or the Panasonic L mount lenses.

Have a look at this link:

 

Edited March 15, 2020 by michali

[gteague]

7 minutes ago, michali said:

Unfortunately the MC-21 doesn't work on the CL, it only works on the SL2. You can use a dumb adapter, but it the lens will only operate in MF, and no aperture control.

well, dang. that's a body blow. i thought that the sl was the only l-mount it didn't work on, but sigma did float the excuse that leica didn't give them the right specs but why they can make it work on the sl2 and not the other leica l-mount cameras doesn't make much sense. or why they can't fix it in firmware as they've already had one firmware update for the adaptor.

in any case, i'll stop shopping for any canon lens for the cl if the adapter won't work. thanks! /guy

Edited March 15, 2020 by gteague

[gteague]

i already have a nikon to l-mount adapter (fully manual 'f' lenses only) and a gorgeous 50s nikkor 105/2.5 which is quite compact and even with the adaptor it might be well balanced on the cl. it will really slow me down to manually focus as my eyes aren't good, but that's not necessarily a bad thing if you don't shoot much action. i think i'll try that before i buy a new autofocus lens.

/guy

[Boojay]

55 minutes ago, gteague said:

i already have a nikon to l-mount adapter (fully manual 'f' lenses only) and a gorgeous 50s nikkor 105/2.5 which is quite compact and even with the adaptor it might be well balanced on the cl. it will really slow me down to manually focus as my eyes aren't good, but that's not necessarily a bad thing if you don't shoot much action. i think i'll try that before i buy a new autofocus lens.

/guy

One you may consider Guy, as it will give you some focal length, and image stabilisation from the lens, is the Panasonic 24-105 F4 Macro OIS.  L mount so no need for adaptor, I use it on the CL and find the focal range and stabilisation very useful.  It does use a bit of extra battery power thanks to the stabilisation but I haven't found it a problem.  Certainly helpful when light drops like this example shot handheld 1/10.  

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[gteague]

funny you should say that as i just recently sold my copy of it because i have acquired the 16-35 and the 70-200 which made it fairly redundant. i really liked it even though it was a kit lens and not the 'pro' line of 's' lenses. i can use the 70-200 on the cl and get 100-300 equiv and at least two stops of stabilization, but that lens looks even stranger on the cl than the 24-105 does---tail wagging the dog.

i do plan to put the 16-35 on the cl and go out with it and the s1 with the 70-200 so i don't have to change lenses. the 16-35 has no ois, but it's not that much worse than the tl 23/2 as it's wide-ish.

/guy

[jaapv]

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I think the problem lies in the Canon software having to be reverse-engineered.

[serhan]

18 hours ago, jaapv said:

I think the problem lies in the Canon software having to be reverse-engineered.

Per Sigma USA, Leica has to issue a firmware. On Sony A7R (only contratst af), af was not working with Canon 100mm f2 but it didn't prevent me to change the aperture and use it as manual lens. Cheap 70-300 IS lens was working. Same 100mm lens works with the m43 Panasonic contrast af cameras. 

MC-21 works with FP, though it is slower than the pdf mirrorless cameras. I saw also SL2 has problems with some Sigma lenses so it might be the compatibility with Leica and Sigma also...

[gteague]

before i got the cl, i had the sigma fp and 3 canon ef lenses i got before there were that many l-mount lenses out. the canon lenses worked perfectly, but the focus always had a little stutter step to it. like, try behind, try in front, then split the difference. worked fine for static subjects, but i think it would have gotten annoying fast for moving objects. /guy