Martin B Posted March 19, 2020 Share #21 Posted March 19, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) It is not the sharpest wide open but nothing beats this lens for its unique glow-like properties which shine especially in macro mode. Taken at f/1.5 with extension tube on Sony A7R with M/NEX and LTM/M adapters. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=3934254'>More sharing options...
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Martin B Posted March 28, 2020 Share #22 Posted March 28, 2020 23 hours ago, Al Brown said: Just in case this info is helpful to anyone - The Summarit 50/1.5 is indeed a very non-Leica lens (see my post above) and is in fact an early Cooke lens (Taylor, Taylor & Hobson was their former name). I have confirmed this with them. See our attached (very short) correspondence. Funny because it is the only Leica-branded lens where I see the often mentioned "Leica glow". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted March 28, 2020 Share #23 Posted March 28, 2020 Leitz factory records show the Summarit was actually manufactured at Wetzlar, not just branded, while the previous Xenon was not (Schneider as noted above). It did use the same TTH optical design, but as it was manufactured by Leica I’d say they were justified in calling it a Leica lens. Of course, the Xenon was branded Leica (some marked as TTH patent), but made by Schneider. Likely the patent had expired by Summarit time so design was available for use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnew Posted March 29, 2020 Share #24 Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) I have a Summarit 1.5 since a few years. To the OP's question : YES it is a character lens but the user has to get it out. For me the real character is coming out at 1.5 to 2.8 . Otherwise, for the general use a Cron v 4 which is much much more convenient. At 1.5 I found that pushing the Structure slider on Capture 1 in post processing gives sharper and some nice results. A painterly effect can be obtained in the transitional areas. I am joining two examples at 1.5 with the copy I have. Besides that I like its all metal construction as a nicely manufactures object and balances well on M240 or M9. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 29, 2020 by newnew 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=3941800'>More sharing options...
newnew Posted March 29, 2020 Share #25 Posted March 29, 2020 Here is another one @ 1.5 with MP240. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=3942016'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted March 29, 2020 Share #26 Posted March 29, 2020 5 hours ago, newnew said: I have a Summarit 1.5 since a few years. To the OP's question : YES it is a character lens but the user has to get it out. For me the real character is coming out at 1.5 to 2.8 . Otherwise, for the general use a Cron v 4 which is much much more convenient. At 1.5 I found that pushing the Structure slider on Capture 1 in post processing gives sharper and some nice results. A painterly effect can be obtained in the transitional areas. I am joining two examples at 1.5 with the copy I have. Besides that I like its all metal construction as a nicely manufactures object and balances well on M240 or M9. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! To me this lens was still different lens even with smaller than f2.8. But I can't describe what I have seen on negatives and prints. I don't understand "balancing well" statement. Is big and heavy lens makes it easier to handle somehow? How, if this lens has focus tab? I sold it before getting M-E 220. On M3 it was just big and heavy lens, which I feel on my neck and nothing else. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnew Posted March 29, 2020 Share #27 Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said: I don't understand "balancing well" statement. Is big and heavy lens makes it easier to handle somehow? How, if this lens has focus tab? I sold it before getting M-E 220. On M3 it was just big and heavy lens, which I feel on my neck and nothing else. To me it is not bigger and heavier than the summilux pre asph Version 2 with chrome casing. I use the infinity lock as focus tab. Nice picture by the way. Edited March 29, 2020 by newnew 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted March 29, 2020 Share #28 Posted March 29, 2020 9 hours ago, newnew said: I have a Summarit 1.5 since a few years. To the OP's question : YES it is a character lens but the user has to get it out. For me the real character is coming out at 1.5 to 2.8 . Otherwise, for the general use a Cron v 4 which is much much more convenient. At 1.5 I found that pushing the Structure slider on Capture 1 in post processing gives sharper and some nice results. A painterly effect can be obtained in the transitional areas. I am joining two examples at 1.5 with the copy I have. I second this. I use the Summarit 50/1.5 predominantly between f/1.5 and f/2.8 to get the painterly effects and the glow. I also have the 50/2 Summicron v5 which IMO is a very different lens - much sharper but not attractive bokeh-wise. The only thing both lenses have in common is their respective weight (I have the v5 chrome version). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy65 Posted November 21, 2021 Share #29 Posted November 21, 2021 On 2/28/2020 at 12:59 PM, sinjun said: In this thread I showed full frame and pixel level crop shots comparing the summarit to the collapsible summicron, modern Zeiss sonnar C and summilux ASPH. I found the summarit to be surprisingly good (though it depends what your expectations are). In the centre at least it seemed better than the summicron at f2 and to give the sonnar a run for its money. At f 1.5 it was quite glowy and somewhat dreamy - I found that in maybe half the pictures I took wide open the effects detracted significantly but that sometimes a very special image would result, say with certain types of vegetation in the background blurring in a unique way. By f2 there was a marked reduction in aberrations and I found the lens perfectly useable for most purposes (other than those requiring real edge to edge sharpness) say from f2.8 up. I would have no hesitation in recommending this lens to complement a modern 50 mm, especially if you can get one which has been CLAed or cheap enough to factor in the cost of having it done yourself. I'd think twice about getting it as a sole 50 mm. i found this lens beautiful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc2 Posted March 12, 2024 Share #30 Posted March 12, 2024 This lens is my first M lens, I've had R lenses and a V lens but here's a shot I think it did an amazing job on!! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=5093806'>More sharing options...
mdg1371 Posted March 13, 2024 Share #31 Posted March 13, 2024 Wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=5095094'>More sharing options...
patrickcolpron Posted March 13, 2024 Share #32 Posted March 13, 2024 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not sure why this thread resurfaced 4 years later, Leica's Summarit 50/1.5 Taylor and Hobson is the best deal for a Leica lens, later version with the latest coating in M mount are truly great even at f/1.5 for black and white photography. If you can find one without any marks on the lens or coating you will save yourself from the glow lenses with damaged coating can have. This was the first Leica lens I had when I purchased an M3 years ago for about $500 for the lens with an M3, I shot a lot of Tri-X with it. The photo above is from this afternoon at Place de la Contrescarpe in Paris using an M10-Monochrom, and an original Leica 41mm medium yellow filter for this Summarit. Photo made at f/1.5. Wide open using color film stock or a color digital M the colors can seem muted, they are a bit washed out but not much and by f/2 it's not an issue. I find it stellar at f/2.8 and f/4, the corners can be soft but nothing dramatic, I really love it's out of focus rendering, it can look nervous but it is good nervous. 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not sure why this thread resurfaced 4 years later, Leica's Summarit 50/1.5 Taylor and Hobson is the best deal for a Leica lens, later version with the latest coating in M mount are truly great even at f/1.5 for black and white photography. If you can find one without any marks on the lens or coating you will save yourself from the glow lenses with damaged coating can have. This was the first Leica lens I had when I purchased an M3 years ago for about $500 for the lens with an M3, I shot a lot of Tri-X with it. The photo above is from this afternoon at Place de la Contrescarpe in Paris using an M10-Monochrom, and an original Leica 41mm medium yellow filter for this Summarit. Photo made at f/1.5. Wide open using color film stock or a color digital M the colors can seem muted, they are a bit washed out but not much and by f/2 it's not an issue. I find it stellar at f/2.8 and f/4, the corners can be soft but nothing dramatic, I really love it's out of focus rendering, it can look nervous but it is good nervous. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=5096881'>More sharing options...
patrickcolpron Posted March 13, 2024 Share #33 Posted March 13, 2024 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! An example at f/4 which has lovely contrasts, distance of 2.2 meters on the lens, shot from the hip with a Leica M10-Monochrom, it really shines for black and white photos. I have a bunch of photos made with an M3 and M2 camera but that about 20 years ago and I'd have to find those negatives somewhere, I had stopped using it once I purchased a 50 Lux ASPH for some reason. (Because the black 50 Lux felt lighter on the camera) These days I still use the Summarit from time to time, specially since I found it's lens shade a couple of years ago and a yellow filter for it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! An example at f/4 which has lovely contrasts, distance of 2.2 meters on the lens, shot from the hip with a Leica M10-Monochrom, it really shines for black and white photos. I have a bunch of photos made with an M3 and M2 camera but that about 20 years ago and I'd have to find those negatives somewhere, I had stopped using it once I purchased a 50 Lux ASPH for some reason. (Because the black 50 Lux felt lighter on the camera) These days I still use the Summarit from time to time, specially since I found it's lens shade a couple of years ago and a yellow filter for it. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=5096893'>More sharing options...
patrickcolpron Posted March 13, 2024 Share #34 Posted March 13, 2024 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This is from a couple of years ago wide open on Beaumarchais in Paris, wide open to show the muted colors and out of focus rendering. Not one scratch on the coating, pristine lens and no glow to speak of. 15 hours ago, mdg1371 said: Wide open This said - this is a stellar example of how good this lens can be wide open with a little light hitting the front element, showing great sharpness in the centre with a wonderful out of focus unique rendering and great mood and character. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This is from a couple of years ago wide open on Beaumarchais in Paris, wide open to show the muted colors and out of focus rendering. Not one scratch on the coating, pristine lens and no glow to speak of. This said - this is a stellar example of how good this lens can be wide open with a little light hitting the front element, showing great sharpness in the centre with a wonderful out of focus unique rendering and great mood and character. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=5096904'>More sharing options...
markc2 Posted March 13, 2024 Share #35 Posted March 13, 2024 (edited) 54 minutes ago, patrickcolpron said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not sure why this thread resurfaced 4 years later, Leica's Summarit 50/1.5 Taylor and Hobson is the best deal for a Leica lens, later version with the latest coating in M mount are truly great even at f/1.5 for black and white photography. If you can find one without any marks on the lens or coating you will save yourself from the glow lenses with damaged coating can have. This was the first Leica lens I had when I purchased an M3 years ago for about $500 for the lens with an M3, I shot a lot of Tri-X with it. The photo above is from this afternoon at Place de la Contrescarpe in Paris using an M10-Monochrom, and an original Leica 41mm medium yellow filter for this Summarit. Photo made at f/1.5. Wide open using color film stock or a color digital M the colors can seem muted, they are a bit washed out but not much and by f/2 it's not an issue. I find it stellar at f/2.8 and f/4, the corners can be soft but nothing dramatic, I really love it's out of focus rendering, it can look nervous but it is good nervous. I just bought one and I saw the posts without looking at the time frame. This is my first lens for my M as well🙂 Edited March 13, 2024 by markc2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc2 Posted March 13, 2024 Share #36 Posted March 13, 2024 Using my 7 day free trial of light room. The amount I had to move sliders was to me very minimal, it was more of what did I want to accomplish rather than fixing things. More 1.5 !! I can stop it down, so far it's been an amazing lens, managed to get it to flare while shooting near the sun, but otherwise it's been amazing and having 1.5 lets me shoot inside without having to bump up the iso on the M8 well that's an added bonus. I was shooting a fireplace at a local lodge and man, the sensor was picking up the glow of the flames on the leather couches. NUTS!! This is the same church just a day later. We got some snow, and the clouds were covering the mountains. So this was a more "cozy/postcard" picture. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=5097157'>More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted March 13, 2024 Share #37 Posted March 13, 2024 I recently sold my two 50mm Summarit lenses as I prefer the earlier 50mm Xenon lenses for “character”. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc2 Posted March 13, 2024 Share #38 Posted March 13, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, markc2 said: This is the same church just a day later. We got some snow, and the clouds were covering the mountains. So this was a more "cozy/postcard" picture. Sorry for the blue snow, (it is now fixed I just didn't know how to post it to the original)I was playing with the sky and didn't catch it. That is not part of the character for this lens. Learning all this new fangled technology. Last time I was using Adobe CS. Edited March 13, 2024 by markc2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF Posted March 13, 2024 Share #39 Posted March 13, 2024 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5cm Summarit f1.5 LTM on M8 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5cm Summarit f1.5 LTM on M8 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=5098223'>More sharing options...
JMF Posted March 13, 2024 Share #40 Posted March 13, 2024 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5cm Summarit f1.5 LTM on M3 and Ilford 3200 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5cm Summarit f1.5 LTM on M3 and Ilford 3200 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306908-summarit-5cm-f15-image-character/?do=findComment&comment=5098253'>More sharing options...
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