Would a Q-M be technically possible?

[snooper]

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Voilà.

Ideal camera.

Q2 fitted with M mount.

I can pre-order today, should a commitment be needed 😂

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[caissa]

It would have a M mount. Problem, it is too small to fit electronic contacts. So another mount is needed ...    There is the Lmount, so there is the CL. Leica has already announced that Mr.Barnack would have selected it. (If he was alive today)

Edited February 12, 2020 by caissa

[Tobers]

You could get a Sony A7R with an M adapter and get the same sort of thing.

I think Leica could do really well by replicating the rangefinder focusing experience with software and an EVF. They could create a really innovative and improved interface that is much better than the Fuji X100 equivalent, and very “natural” for M users, yet accurate and easy to use.

[jaapv]

On 2/12/2020 at 1:14 PM, snooper said:

Voilà.

Ideal camera.

Q2 fitted with M mount.

I can pre-order today, should a commitment be needed 😂

What would be the difference to the EVF-M some are wishing for?

[T.J.]

What I would like to see is a Q with interchangeable lens, even if it's a new mount.  Would not have to be a lot, perhaps a 28mm, 50mm, and 105mm.  Keep the 28mm fast at f/1.7, then a little slower for the others to keep the size/weight down.  Would be an interesting system.

[PhotoCruiser]

Am 16.2.2020 um 02:44 schrieb jaapv:

What would be the difference to the EVF-M some are wishing for?

As i am not the LEICA specialist i am wondering the same thing,
but i belive that LEICA is building cameras and lenses for most applications and that they have a Q2 equavilent camera with interchangable lenses.

Leica has a fame as artistic and travel camera and i think that no LEICA will be able to compete with a pro grade Nikon or Canon DSLR for sport photography for example.
I could dominate my D800 rather well and it's a excellent camera but optical lens quality of the pro lenses is far behind from LEICA lenses,
but they are highly configurable for the owners needs particularly useful if shooting fast scenes.

Chris

 

 

[PhotoCruiser]

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vor 13 Stunden schrieb T.J.:

What I would like to see is a Q with interchangeable lens,

Would a Q with interchangable lenses not be similar than a M10 and d the trick?

Chris

[snooper]

The "sexy" factor of the Q is the weight, but also the weight, not forgetting to mention the weight.. and also weather proofing, very good evf, and last but not least the simplicity in manual mode (focus and aperture and shutter speed). The M is perfect, of course, but you have to try the Q2 all manual, including iso, you feel like holding and shooting with an instamatic.. A really lovely piece of equipment, ergonomically almost perfect. I love my SL2, my M10, M10M, etc.. but that Q2, really.... It has something special. Let's say if I had to return all my gear and keep just one system, it would be the Q2. 

 

[PhotoCruiser]

As i wrote several times,
after starting with photography as a kid in early 70's using my fathers Leica i had a lot of SRL and later D-SLR ad i still have my D800.

Fact is that i don't use my D800 anymore, not because it's a inferior camera, just because i am tired to haul 3 prime lenses, 2 extra lenses a big D-SLR body around the world.

The only time i miss my D800 rig is when i would need a tele lens but particularly i miss my 105mm macro when i stumble above some awesome, tiny critters.

I choosed the Q2 for it's size, waterproofing and the non removable and excellent lens to have a small, light camera for my travels.
While i had (and still use a Panasonix LX-100) several compact cameras mainly for underwater photography, the Q2 is absolutely the camera i want to be my buddy.

The reason that i did not got and will not get a SL2 or similar camera is that then:
a) i will be back where is was, hauling a bulky and heavy photo backpack/trolley around the world
b) i will need to fork out a massive amount of $$$ to buy me a very expensive "toy" and knowing me, the macro lens won't be only t lens i would desire for the SL2

The Q2 fit 90% perfectly what i need and my style of shooting photos, the restant 10% i will use either the LEICA ELPRO 52 close-up lens or the D800.

Chris

 

 

[T.J.]

On 2/18/2020 at 7:38 AM, PhotoCruiser said:

Would a Q with interchangable lenses not be similar than a M10 and d the trick?

Chris

Similar, but no autofocus and a lower pixel count.

[hdmesa]

So basically you mean the coming M10-R with an EVF instead of a rangefinder window, right? Pretty much what I've been wanting since first owning the Q.

[Tailwagger]

The thing that everyone seems to forget every time this subject comes up, and this isnt the first time, is the fact that the Q has a leaf shutter. There is no shutter in the body. So unless you were happy with an e-shutter only, and who would be, its a non-starter.  The in-lens shutter enables, as it does in the X1D a svelte body, but it then demands that were the Q to become an ILC that every additional lens also sport a built-in shutter.  And as I've yet to see an M lens so equipped, an M mount in that context makes no sense. So such a camera, regardless of size and style that has an in body shutter and native mounts M glass is better termed an EVF-M, which also has been discussed to death. 

Edited February 29, 2020 by Tailwagger

[Leica Guy]

3 hours ago, Tailwagger said:

The thing that everyone seems to forget every time this subject comes up, and this isnt the first time, is the fact that the Q has a leaf shutter. There is no shutter in the body. So unless you were happy with an e-shutter only, and who would be, its a non-starter.  The in-lens shutter enables, as it does in the X1D a svelte body, but it then demands that were the Q to become an ILC that every additional lens also sport a built-in shutter.  And as I've yet to see an M lens so equipped, an M mount in that context makes no sense. So such a camera, regardless of size and style that has an in body shutter and native mounts M glass is better termed an EVF-M, which also has been discussed to death. 

+1. Thanks. 

[frame-it]

3 hours ago, Tailwagger said:

The thing that everyone seems to forget every time this subject comes up, and this isnt the first time, is the fact that the Q has a leaf shutter. There is no shutter in the body. So unless you were happy with an e-shutter only, and who would be, its a non-starter.  The in-lens shutter enables, as it does in the X1D a svelte body, but it then demands that were the Q to become an ILC that every additional lens also sport a built-in shutter.

you described the sigma FP

https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/sigmafp/

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If the Q had a clear viewing window with a rangefinder with  an m mount i would seriously consider buying it.

[mike3996]

On 2/15/2020 at 7:49 PM, Tobers said:

I think Leica could do really well by replicating the rangefinder focusing experience with software and an EVF. They could create a really innovative and improved interface that is much better than the Fuji X100 equivalent, and very “natural” for M users, yet accurate and easy to use.

It is a wet dream of everyone to have a virtual rangefinder mechanism. Sadly it's based in optics in such a way it's just not realistic to have it implemented digitally "well enough".  Software can't help in this regard. Fuji has had a "split prism" focus mode in their cameras for half a decade now. You're welcome to try that out, see if you like the implementation. To me it's garbage, while a nice romantic idea.

 

It might work if you dedicated a vast number of PDAF pixels, packed very densely in the middle of the sensor. Then those pixels could read all the distances that occur within the focusing square. PDAF pixels inherently cause problems in the sensor output, and it is largely managed by keeping the numbers low and the pixels sparse.

 

In any event, the new system is TTL and if your lens is greatly out of focus what the digital correction is going to show you? RF is beautiful in that you always get a sharp, in-focus image of the world.

 

There's no replacing the rangefinder mechanism just like that. Can't replicate the analog mechanical pureness with digital quantization.

[rivi1969]

On 2/12/2020 at 6:14 AM, snooper said:

Voilà.

Ideal camera.

Q2 fitted with M mount.

I can pre-order today, should a commitment be needed 😂

I don't see what's wrong with the good old M rangefinder system. But... the current alternative to your ideal camera would be a Fuji GFX 50R with M-mount adapter.