Is £2500 to much for a mint as new M6 Classic, Black Chrome

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb activeuk:

Is £2500 to much for a mint as new M6 Classic, Black Chrome 

https://www.leicastoremanchester.com/leica-pre-owned/leica-m/leica-m-analogue/

 

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[Stuart Richardson]

It sounds expensive to me. Do you know if it has been serviced recently? I sent my M6 in for service a few years ago and I think it cost 600 dollars or more for the CLA, so that can definitely add to the cost. That said, it came back fantastic. My dad purchased it new around 1985...I rarely shoot 35mm, but I will be keeping it around in case I get the inclination.

Edit: Looking at it now though, that is exceptionally clean...clearly they are taking a swing at raising the value a lot given the condition, perhaps for collectors. Keep in mind that the camera is 30 years old...not too many are going to be that clean. It looks basically unused.

Edited January 2, 2020 by Stuart Richardson

[otto.f]

6 hours ago, activeuk said:

Is £2500 to much for a mint as new M6 Classic, Black Chrome 

Yes but it follows the trend. So, never sell your Leica gear until...

Would I want it? No, I prefer the larger shuttertime wheel, which turns in the same direction as the aperture ring In terms of exposure

Edited January 2, 2020 by otto.f

[dkmoore]

Pricing right now is inflated across the board for used Leica gear. The gear also takes a long time to sell at those prices.

[Reini]

2500 No matter if dollar, pound or euro ... is too much. The average price is not what retailers ask for, but customers pay.
I think these price lists are realistic: https://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Leitz/M6.html

[otto.f]

14 minutes ago, Reini said:

2500 No matter if dollar, pound or euro ... is too much. The average price is not what retailers ask for, but customers pay.
I think these price lists are realistic: https://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Leitz/M6.html

They ask more than 2000 because of the black chrome

[Rupert Greenwell]

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M 6 Classic values have gone up quite a bit recently, I know because I had been looking for one and purchased a mint black chrome for £1,600 about 6 months ago from a UK Leica dealer, I was told that the camera had been serviced. When I received the camera I noticed that the back door was very loose when closed. I was going to send the camera straight back but by chance I was phoned by Malcolm Taylor, I explained what the problem was and he said no problem he could fix that . Malcolm had some lenses for sale that I was interested in and as I live not that far from him I took the camera in for him to have a look at.

    Well he said that he had never seen a door that loose before and put a strip of plastic in which he said was a better modification than the original. He also noticed that on the inside of the door a piece was loose and missing a screw, had the other screw come out the door would have jammed. I explained that the camera had been serviced, he laughed and said don’t trust what some dealers say, they are just passing items on as soon as they come in hoping that the buyer may not notice or if they complain fob them off. He told a amusing story of when he bought a used M240 from a UK dealer, he found that the camera had a problem bringing up the correct frame lines . He phoned up the dealer and spoke to a assistant explaining the problem, the assistant assured him that the camera had been fully checked etc before being sent out and denied that there was a problem.Malcolm must have had a delicious moment when he told the assistant what he did for a living !  The camera was immediately replaced with full apologies !

    Anyway I left the camera with Malcolm as it was outwardly in very good condition and he checked it over . He rang me to say that the original factory seals were intact and the camera had never been serviced. There was a light leak, the battery compartment had corrosion which was giving a incorrect exposure. I asked him to fix it and I now have a very  good camera. Yes I should have taken the matter up with the dealer but I would probably have gone through the same process whatever M6 I had bought.

[Reini]

On the subject, it works, is serviced, ready for use, etc. ...
This affects not only the M6, but also everyone else, whether screw or M.
Is mostly a lie, at best a coincidence if the Leica works.

[activeuk]

just seem a mint Leica M7 0.72 Siver Chrome (later MP VF) for £2100 still to much?

[Rupert Greenwell]

I was looking for a classic M6 as I have often heard that there is a circuit board in the M6 ttl that cannot be repaired thus leaving the camera without a meter. I wonder if that is causing the classic values to rise.

[Reini]

vor 8 Minuten schrieb activeuk:

just seem a mint Leica M7 0.72 Siver Chrome (later MP VF) for £2100 still to much?

It's best to compare the international prices on the www
Here people generally don't like to talk about prices. 😉

[Reini]

vor 3 Minuten schrieb Rupert Greenwell:

I was looking for a classic M6 as I have often heard that there is a circuit board in the M6 ttl that cannot be repaired thus leaving the camera without a meter. I wonder if that is causing the classic values to rise.

I would also like an M6 ... but 30 year old electronics is a risk 🙄

[sv.lad]

You can find m7 in mint condition for less money, it's definitely too much.

[james.liam]

51 minutes ago, Rupert Greenwell said:

I was looking for a classic M6 as I have often heard that there is a circuit board in the M6 ttl that cannot be repaired thus leaving the camera without a meter. I wonder if that is causing the classic values to rise.

That may be a factor. I see fewer and fewer Classic models on sale. As for the circuit board, I had read somewhere that the MP's circuit board is perhaps the same or similar? It is simple and Leica is apparently well-stocked with them, as opposed to the TTL now gone.

Edited January 2, 2020 by james.liam

[Phil_P]

46 minutes ago, sv.lad said:

You can find m7 in mint condition for less money, it's definitely too much.

I bought an M7 (black) just  this morning  privately and paid around the M7 price mentioned above. Couldn’t find anything else in excellent condition, just Leica fully serviced, with a > 2,88xxx serial number anywhere close to that. So hope a stream of links aren’t going to appear here

[pedaes]

24 minutes ago, Phil_P said:

I bought an M7 (black) just  this morning  privately and paid around the M7 price mentioned above. Couldn’t find anything else in excellent condition, just Leica fully serviced, with a > 2,88xxx serial number anywhere close to that. So hope a stream of links aren’t going to appear here

You have bought so be happy and enjoy. Some of the great buys prople talk about are most likely in a to  'used' condition for your taste, so don't fret on internet chatter.

[erniethemilk]

My early ‘Leitz’ M6 classic cost me £1500 back in October. Admittedly it’s in very good condition, but still, no box, papers, accessories etc. I could have bought the same camera 12 months earlier for possibly £400-£500 quid less!
 

M6 prices here in the UK have gone nuts over the past 12 months. 

[Guest]

Next will be the M6TTL, once people see that the failure of the electronic board is an extremely rare occurrence and that it can be replaced by the component from the MP. 
Why? 
Because late M6TTL have a brass top and

an MP-like viewfinder (which just like in late M7 flares less).

 

In all M6TTL the exposure-time wheel turns in accordance with the exposure arrows in the viewfinder and the same way as in all digital M cameras.

The appreciation for the specialized viewfinders 0.58 (wide-angles) and 0.85 (50mm and above, for more accurate focusing) is an additional mark-up.

 

The green prices on eBay, if you look for completed listings, prove it.

 

 

Edited January 3, 2020 by tri

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[wattsy]

59 minutes ago, tri said:

Next will be the M6TTL, once people see that the failure of the electronic board is an extremely rare occurrence and that it can be replaced by the component from the MP. 

Because late M6TTL have a brass top and an MP-like viewfinder (which just like in late M7 flares less).

The potential for electronic failure is no doubt overstated but I'm not sure that the MP has a directly equivalent part. The MP may have a board that is shoehornable into an M6TTL (after all these are just basic circuit boards) but the M6TTL has different circuitry to account for the TTL flash metering. Presumably if it was such an easy swap, Leica would have done this when presented with the problem rather than consider the fault no longer serviceable?

It is true that some late M6TTL bodies have a brass top but it isn't very many and the only certain ones are the limited edition final 999 M6TTLs that came in a presentation box. For the others you'd need to scratch through the chrome to be certain.😀 I don't know about the "MP" viewfinder. I don't remember it being talked about for the late M6TTL bodies (even in relation to the official last 999 ones).

[Keith (M)]

As a slight aside but related to film camera rising prices, three years ago I put a tentative step into the Hasselblad world by purchasing (from a reputable dealer that I had previously dealt with) a 1969 500C + Planar C 80mm. It was listed as "serviced, six months guarantee" and I paid £540.  Looking to move to a more modern model, last month I bought from a different dealer a 503CX with Planar 80mm CF T* .  Sight unseen they offered £500 for my 500C in part-ex, then suggested they sell it on commission as they would list it at £790, potentially netting me £632.  Well, nothing ventured nothing gained so I sent it off and next day received a call saying that the 500C was in such good condition they had listed it at £920 - and that it was already sold.  Fourteen days later (after the period of grace for return had expired) £736 was paid into my bank account. A very welcome Christmas present!