Jeff S Posted December 10, 2019 Share #21 Posted December 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, digitalfx said: Funny, but the first time I watched I came away with the same impression...I think it was his reluctance to answer at first that deflected his actual statement. But after watching it again, he clearly said it's the best lens ever made. And after owning the lens, I can just say WOW. Its the best lens Ive ever owned or used. The important part to me was the further explanation of how size limitations, or lack thereof, impact the ability of lens designers to work their magic. In this old interview with Karbe regarding development of the 50 M Summilux, we see the flip size of how size limitations can present enormous challenges. https://www.shutterbug.com/content/leica-lens-saga-interview-peter-karbe Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chaemono Posted December 10, 2019 Share #22 Posted December 10, 2019 That’s why the 55 Otus is so big. The lens designers weren’t given any size constraints, just told to make the optically most perfect 55 mm f/1.4 lens. They sure heeded the advice. 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 10, 2019 Share #23 Posted December 10, 2019 Not just the Otus, but all the others, including Leica, competing for the bestest and fastest. Same as the MP race. Wrong priorities IMO, but my opinion doesn’t count. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rim_light Posted December 10, 2019 Share #24 Posted December 10, 2019 Just to come back to the topic of the thread opener: since today lightroom (and the other adobe sw) supports the SL2 (read original source) The other interesting thing about the update of Lightroom is the possibility to import files directly from SD card via adapter to LR without using the camera roll on iphone and iPad. So why is Leica charging 55 bucks for the importing? (Yes, I know it's something different, but it's downloading a picture from camera to mobile device via wifi now - no extra efforts for leica or licence issues) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 10, 2019 Share #25 Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, rim_light said: Just to come back to the topic of the thread opener: since today lightroom (and the other adobe sw) supports the SL2 (read original source) The other interesting thing about the update of Lightroom is the possibility to import files directly from SD card via adapter to LR without using the camera roll on iphone and iPad. So why is Leica charging 55 bucks for the importing? (Yes, I know it's something different, but it's downloading a picture from camera to mobile device via wifi now - no extra efforts for leica or licence issues) Your link re: support for SL2 has nothing to do with FOTOS app. It simply means LR supports the RAW DNG file from the SL2. The paid features in the FOTOS app are simply an option (wireless option), they are not required or necessary. The extra efforts from Leica are developing the app itself. Bottom line, if the paid features don't offer value to you then ignore them. They are not necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rim_light Posted December 10, 2019 Share #26 Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, digitalfx said: Your link re: support for SL2 has nothing to do with FOTOS app. It simply means LR supports the RAW DNG file from the SL2. The paid features in the FOTOS app are simply an option (wireless option), they are not required or necessary. The extra efforts from Leica are developing the app itself. Bottom line, if the paid features don't offer value to you then ignore them. They are not necessary. Why so rude? I didn't say that my link has anything to do with Leica Fotos. Furthermore I referring to a statement from Leica that the transfer costs because of licence issues (as I wrote). And just for you to opening your mind: EVERY other camera company offer downloading files from camera to the smartphone for free. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted December 10, 2019 Share #27 Posted December 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 12 minutes ago, rim_light said: Why so rude? I didn't say that my link has anything to do with Leica Fotos. Furthermore I referring to a statement from Leica that the transfer costs because of licence issues (as I wrote). And just for you to opening your mind: EVERY other camera company offer downloading files from camera to the smartphone for free. The free FOTOS app allows downloading files from camera to the smartphone for free as well. AFAIK, the subscription version adds only integration with Lightroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 10, 2019 Share #28 Posted December 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, rim_light said: Why so rude? I didn't say that my link has anything to do with Leica Fotos. Furthermore I referring to a statement from Leica that the transfer costs because of licence issues (as I wrote). And just for you to opening your mind: EVERY other camera company offer downloading files from camera to the smartphone for free. Sorry, did not intend to be rude.. Just answering your question. And BTW- The Leica FOTOS app allows downloading the files from camera to the smartphone for free. The paid part is an option for LR import, which is not required nor necessary. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted December 10, 2019 Share #29 Posted December 10, 2019 I’m on LR Classic 9.0 and there doesn’t seem to be another update AFAICT. Also, mine doesn’t say “built-in lens profile applied.” When I tick the profile box, I get the message “the right profile cannot automatically be found.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 10, 2019 Share #30 Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chaemono said: I’m on LR Classic 9.0 and there doesn’t seem to be another update AFAICT. Also, mine doesn’t say “built-in lens profile applied.” When I tick the profile box, I get the message “the right profile cannot automatically be found.” did you install todays update? im testing now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted December 10, 2019 Share #31 Posted December 10, 2019 vor 6 Minuten schrieb digitalfx: did you install todays update? im testing now No, a while back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted December 10, 2019 Share #32 Posted December 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, Chaemono said: I’m on LR Classic 9.0 and there doesn’t seem to be another update AFAICT. Also, mine doesn’t say “built-in lens profile applied.” When I tick the profile box, I get the message “the right profile cannot automatically be found.” They are rolling it out slowly ... I do not see the update neither. I do not think the new version will address the missing lens profile in SL Summicrons. I believe present state is works-as-intended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 10, 2019 Share #33 Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, SrMi said: They are rolling it out slowly ... I do not see the update neither. I do not think the new version will address the missing lens profile in SL Summicrons. I believe present state is works-as-intended. Todays update specifically says for SL2 but in Lens profiles...none of the SL lenses are even listed. It only lists Leica R, M and S lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofo100 Posted December 10, 2019 Share #34 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) vor 12 Minuten schrieb SrMi: I do not think the new version will address the missing lens profile in SL Summicrons. I remember raising this question when I received my 90SL summicron - Easy answer has been that the Summicrons are so good that there is no need for an embedded lens profile. Accordingly, LR properly shows only for the 3 varios that the embedded profile has been applied. Edited December 10, 2019 by hofo100 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted December 10, 2019 Share #35 Posted December 10, 2019 vor 7 Minuten schrieb digitalfx: Todays update specifically says for SL2 but in Lens profiles...none of the SL lenses are even listed. It only lists Leica R, M and S lenses They are not supposed to list. You’re supposed to get the message “built-in lens profile applied” and the drop down menu should be grayed out. vor 2 Minuten schrieb hofo100: I remember raising this question when I received my 90SL summicron - Easy answer has been that the Summicrons are so good that there is no need for an embedded lens profile. Accordingly, LR properly shows only for the 3 varios that the embedded profile has been applied. LR shows that ‘the embedded profile has been applied’ with the SL Summicrons on the S1/R, though. 😁 Go figure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofo100 Posted December 10, 2019 Share #36 Posted December 10, 2019 vor 3 Minuten schrieb Chaemono: 😁 Go figure. Unchanged after today's update - this is how it looks like SL2 w/ 90SL Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304255-sl2-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=3870861'>More sharing options...
SrMi Posted December 10, 2019 Share #37 Posted December 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chaemono said: They are not supposed to list. You’re supposed to get the message “built-in lens profile applied” and the drop down menu should be grayed out. LR shows that ‘the embedded profile has been applied’ with the SL Summicrons on the S1/R, though. 😁 Go figure. The camera adds the built-in lens profile to the DNG files. What does it say on S1/R + Summicron DNGs when clicking on "i" in the lens correction panel? What kind of correction have been applied? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted December 10, 2019 Share #38 Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, hofo100 said: Unchanged after today's update - this is how it looks like SL2 w/ 90SL Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I do not expect any changes, since the built-in profile is added (or not) by the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 10, 2019 Share #39 Posted December 10, 2019 By default it looks like this...that message only appears if you click "Enable Profiles" box. I assume since a profile isn't necessary, there is no reason to select the option. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304255-sl2-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=3870866'>More sharing options...
Manicouagan1 Posted December 10, 2019 Share #40 Posted December 10, 2019 Lightroom CC 9.1 with Camera Raw 12.1 has added support for the SL2. Thbese are both December 2019 releases. However none of the SL lenses are supported at this time other than using "built inlens profile." Most of my older M lenses are supported fully by Lightroom CC when using the M to L adapter.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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