HpS Posted August 23, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 23, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Now that Leica has acquired Sinar, it might help many of us to have a forum on the Sinar Digital camera/LF digital backs/& lenses. It would be of interest to gather ideas and tips, on how to use old Sinar cameras and go digital. Anyone with such interests, information and experience here? Would be happy to learn whatever I can on this. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joakim Posted August 23, 2019 Share #2 Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) How many years was it since that happened? There isn't that much traffic here in the S section and a specific Sinar section would probably be very quiet. May I recommend the GetDpi forums for medium format discussions or perhaps https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/ but I haven't visited that forum in a while. Edited August 23, 2019 by Joakim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted August 23, 2019 Share #3 Posted August 23, 2019 Hello Everybody, Altho if people started to write about it here it might develop into something. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted August 24, 2019 Share #4 Posted August 24, 2019 There are two options, a replacement rear standard for the P2 and P3 tat takes an S body. The other is the S(007) sensor in a flat back. I have never seen either in the wild 😉 john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted August 24, 2019 Share #5 Posted August 24, 2019 I have always wondered why the two companies merged... I still wonder why the two companies merged... Albert Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/300614-sinar-digital-backs/?do=findComment&comment=3804916'>More sharing options...
peterv Posted August 24, 2019 Share #6 Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, John McMaster said: I have never seen either in the wild 😉 Indeed, I was going to ask: Has anyone ever seen any work done with the Sinar Mobile Digital Back S3045 or ever tried one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted August 24, 2019 Share #7 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, albertknappmd said: I have always wondered why the two companies merged... I still wonder why the two companies merged... Albert Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hello Albert, Perhaps Sinar was looking for an appropriate partner who was NOT interested in simply disposing of Sinar's assets & perhaps Leica was looking for a hi quality maker of larger format cameras, etc. to help them develop their medium & possible larger format cameras, etc. Could be "win - win". Just a guess. Best Regards, Michael Edited August 24, 2019 by Michael Geschlecht 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted August 24, 2019 Share #8 Posted August 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Could be "win - win Michael, that’s what I thought some years ago when the news of the cooperation was made public, but not much seems to have happened since then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted August 24, 2019 Share #9 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Hello Peter, I know. But, "not much" might be better than the alternative for 1 of them/both. And: They don't necessarily tell people what is going on. They have all types of advantages in their getting together: Same language, same culture (Both ethnologically & technologically.), physical proximity, etc. And don't forget that they also include the people in Austria who made the "R" motors. I forget their name. Another high quality, photographically oriented manufacturer. They used to make movie cameras. Part of the idea might be: These people & the equipment that they work with are a highly skilled group of people who are alraedy organized to work in the photographic/optical Industry: Why not keep them together & have them work in their established fields & also have them work in any of a number of new directions as a factor of how things develop. That is a lot easier than trying to aasemble a group like them from a working base without their backgrounds & skills. This is what was done when the first Leica model was manufactured for the Public. Leitz used already present highly skilled people from a related field (Microscopy) to build their 35mm cameras: High precision metal work coupled with optics. The same high precision metal work coupled with optics of a microscope used for something a little different. Best Regards, Michael Edited August 24, 2019 by Michael Geschlecht 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted August 24, 2019 Share #10 Posted August 24, 2019 I had the Sinar P2 converted into the P3 and used it with the Sinar -M shutter. Unfortunately, the camera was stolen from my house alongside with my watches. My Sinar 54H was also stolen. I still have several CMV lenses. I am looking for a clean Sinar p3 at the usual places, and want to get it as soon as the price is right. I don’t need the Sinar, because the copying work can be done pretty reliably with the current one-shot and multishot digital cameras and I just want to get back to the movements on the rear standard again. Just because I want it My CMV lenses can be mounted into the new and modern electronic shutters but I am not sure that the Sinar electronic shutter will work with anything but the Sinar software without an additional control module. Another option is to mount them into the Copal shutters and use them with a P1 or Hasselblad back. I am waiting for the new cheap V-Hasselblad digital back with live view, maybe it’s the most affordable solution. Yevgeny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted August 25, 2019 Share #11 Posted August 25, 2019 One problem with starting a Sinar forum is that their distribution seems to be very sparse (to put things mildly) outside of Europe. They used to be well-represented in the US and Canada, but they only have a handful of dealers now, many of which I've never heard of, and who don't seem provide any information about available products online. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HpS Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted August 28, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 7:34 PM, peterv said: Indeed, I was going to ask: Has anyone ever seen any work done with the Sinar Mobile Digital Back S3045 or ever tried one? The fact I know of, the s3045 back has sold out and they are out of stock! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HpS Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) On 8/25/2019 at 2:41 AM, ynp said: I had the Sinar P2 converted into the P3 and used it with the Sinar -M shutter. Unfortunately, the camera was stolen from my house alongside with my watches. My Sinar 54H was also stolen. I still have several CMV lenses. I am looking for a clean Sinar p3 at the usual places, and want to get it as soon as the price is right. I don’t need the Sinar, because the copying work can be done pretty reliably with the current one-shot and multishot digital cameras and I just want to get back to the movements on the rear standard again. Just because I want it My CMV lenses can be mounted into the new and modern electronic shutters but I am not sure that the Sinar electronic shutter will work with anything but the Sinar software without an additional control module. Another option is to mount them into the Copal shutters and use them with a P1 or Hasselblad back. I am waiting for the new cheap V-Hasselblad digital back with live view, maybe it’s the most affordable solution. Yevgeny I have used my Sinar f with copal lenses, for photographing architecture. And want to explore using it again with an appropriate digital option. Although must admit their new Artec and Lantec bodies for use with the s3045 back appear absolutely superb specimens for making high resolution images in the field. Prohibitively priced of course!! Edited August 28, 2019 by HpS Addendum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted August 28, 2019 Share #14 Posted August 28, 2019 I would have thought the F would be a bit flimsy to use with digital backs? john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HpS Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/28/2019 at 11:31 PM, John McMaster said: I would have thought the F would be a bit flimsy to use with digital backs? john The f's not so flimsy in my opinion. But I don't have any experience of using a digital back on it yet either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted September 2, 2019 Share #16 Posted September 2, 2019 I was comparing it to the P/P2 system john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HpS Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 5:30 PM, John McMaster said: I was comparing it to the P/P2 system john They say the s3045 is compatible with an f. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted September 15, 2019 Share #18 Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, HpS said: They say the s3045 is compatible with an f. A friend of mine still uses his issued F3 with a sliding back at a museum and he struggled with the camera on his shoots when the movements are needed. As a repro camera it works well enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HpS Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted September 16, 2019 9 hours ago, ynp said: A friend of mine still uses his issued F3 with a sliding back at a museum and he struggled with the camera on his shoots when the movements are needed. As a repro camera it works well enough. Is this a digital back and would you know which make and model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted September 16, 2019 Share #20 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, HpS said: Is this a digital back and would you know which make and model? The system was supplied to the museum many years ago with A Jenoptik 24x36 multishot back, adapted to full spectrum, now they use a Hasselblad CF-39 MS V-Mount , provided by a sponsor. They still use the Rollei electronic shutters with their Sinaron and enlarger lenses. As far as I know , they also use an Olympus IR/ UV camera with the Costal optics lens , very often in multishot mode. They also used a Fuji forensic camera, I don’t remember what model. Edited September 16, 2019 by ynp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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