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Having used the Q2 last weekend I found it rather limiting with a single focal length, so it's entirely my fault for not doing enough homework. So it will have to go to a new home😩. 

Nice piece of kit but I can't justify it. 

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HighlandK

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Only you know what suits you and your style of photography and how the images will be subsequently used - large/small prints/web  - but have you experimented with how much you can crop and still get the quality you need? 

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1 hour ago, Flyer said:

Having used the Q2 last weekend I found it rather limiting with a single focal length, so it's entirely my fault for not doing enough homework. So it will have to go to a new home😩. 

Nice piece of kit but I can't justify it. 

Flyer

You can get $1000 over retail for it on FM...

 

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3 hours ago, Flyer said:

Having used the Q2 last weekend I found it rather limiting with a single focal length, so it's entirely my fault for not doing enough homework. So it will have to go to a new home😩. 

Nice piece of kit but I can't justify it. 

Flyer

I would urge you to not sell your Q2 in haste - give this some careful thought and serious consideration before you sell. 

I would suggest that you give this a try:   Shoot with your Q2 for the next three or four months and then see how you feel.  If you take a few weeks to learn to use the 28mm effectively, you may want to keep it.  If you get rid of your Q2 without really thinking it through, you will end up kicking yourself (been there, done that).

The 28mm focal length is not a jack of all trades lens like a 24-70mm zoom or a 50mm prime.  The 28 requires more of a photographer in terms technique and framing.  Many times, you have to get close to your subject.  That makes some photographers uncomfortable. 

If you continue to use a 28 and require yourself to get closer to your subjects, that discomfort will fade away and lose its power over you.  It just takes a little time - less than you would think, by the way - and it requires discipline.  You have to be willing to say to yourself, "No - no.   I'm not going to settle for a mediocre image.  I am going to do what I need to do and get closer."

I have traded off or sold several cameras or lenses over the years, only to discover 6-12 months later that I'd made a huge mistake.  Don't be "that guy."

 

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I agree with the wait before making your sell decision.  I can tell you that there have been 4 cameras I have owned sold and ended up buying again, after taking a loss on the sale of my original.  The original Q was one of them.  

I have a Pentax K1 that I have almost sold two times till I taking it out on a shot and I remember how much I love the camera and the files it produces, I think there will be a long lead time on the Q2 so you should be safe for the next couple of months. 

Have fun.

 

 

 

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Hi Flyer,

If you've already sold your Q2, disregard the following.

I have a different way of looking at the Q2 and its 28mm fixed lens. I'm a more natural 35mm shooter but love the ability to shoot at 28mm when needed. In fact, when shooting on the streets, I'm increasingly pushing myself to use the 28mm focal length as it's definitely more challenging. However, the 35mm "crop" on the Q2 gives me the best of both worlds. When I want to shoot at 35mm, I simply hit the zoom button once and up pops the 35mm crop lines. I shoot in RAW+JPG so I end up with a cropped JPG but I also get a DNG that when I bring it into LR, shows up with the 35mm crop I wanted at the time I made the shot, but I also have the flexibility of changing/shifting the crop if needed. For me, the 35mm EVF crop lines gives me the same feeling of looking through a Fuji X-Pro 2 or Leica M OVF (loosely speaking) as it gives me the ability to see what's coming in/out of the frame or to see what's on the outside of the frame that I may want to include by repositioning.

So I see the Q2 "fixed" lens this way. I get a massive 47 MP file if I want to keep the 28mm FOV or I can crop to 35mm in camera (which gives me the ability to compose with the actual crop size as opposed to guessing where the crop would be later in post), and still get a 30 MP file that in itself is bigger than the previous file on the full image 28mm of the original Q. As an aside, I also have zero problem doing the same with the 50mm crop line, accepting that I "only" get a 15 MP image. Funny how back in the dark ages of digital, say early-2000's, you could make poster size prints from 6 MP files. So at the end of the day, I think of the Q2 as a 28/35/50 (and 75 for web) Leica camera with amazing image quality and a fantastic Leica lens.

Yes, I'm aware that I'm not getting the shallow DOF of a 35 or 50 mm f/1.7 lens. However, given the overall package I get with the Q2, I'm totally comfortable with a 28/1.7, 35/2.1, 50/3.0 FF equivalent lens, which is what the FF effective apertures are at those focal lengths. Though I will note that it's great to still get the f/1.7 light gathering capability regardless of the crop used. Could I use the Q2 as my only camera? Probably, for 70% of what I shoot. But for the other 30%, I have a Fuji X-T3 and various lenses for portraits, sports, landscapes, etc.

Anyway, I thought I'd pass on my thoughts just in case you wanted to look differently at the Q2's 28mm "fixed" lens. If being limited to 28/35/50 is too much, then I absolutely agree that you should sell the Q2, the sooner the better so you can hopefully get back your $5k (or whatever currency you use).

Good luck with your decision.

Steve

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Actually you have an alternative : this monster Canon EOS R + RF 28-70 f/2

A constant 30MP pixel count and f/2 camera, all the way from 28mm to 70mm. Also weather sealed (kinda)

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vor 3 Stunden schrieb nicci78:

Actually you have an alternative : this monster Canon EOS R + RF 28-70 f/2

A constant 30MP pixel count and f/2 camera, all the way from 28mm to 70mm. Also weather sealed (kinda)

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20 hours ago, HighlandK said:

Only you know what suits you and your style of photography and how the images will be subsequently used - large/small prints/web  - but have you experimented with how much you can crop and still get the quality you need? 

Long exposure is the most frustrating feature, when taking bracketed shots of say 60sec it takes 6 mins to take one shot. Because you just can't deactivate noise reduction not even in DNG. Too long for me on a chilly day lol. 

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