Why so Few Reviews of the 16-35 SVE???

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vor 14 Stunden schrieb dfarkas:

I never use the lens shades. First thing I do when taking a new lens out of the box is to put the hood back in the box and seal it up. Seriously. I don't use any lens hoods for my SL lenses, TL lenses, or S lenses. Of course, I do use the metal, screw-on shades that are part of the newest M lenses. But that's it. 

Why not:

• I lose them.
• I often use a 4" filter holder or a polarizer, both of which necessitate me removing the hood.
• I see absolutely no need to do so from an image quality perspective. These lenses are so flare resistant that the hood serves little purpose.
• They make the lenses look enormous. Lenses like the 16-35 are large enough. Why make them look twice the size with a lens shade?
• They break easily. The hoods are designed in large part to protect the lens in case of impact - like a crumple zone in a car. If you make the shade too strong, a small knock ends up destroying the lens. So, they are essentially break-away, sacrificing themselves for the greater good. 

No one in my team uses lens shades either. Even if Leica redesigned everything and they were amazing, we still wouldn't use them. 

 

I suppose it's the first time that I have to disagree with you. Using NEVER any filter I can't imagine working with my high quality and expensive lenses without their original hoods due to their physical (to a lesser extent opticall) protection. Otherwise serious scratches on the front lens would be inevitable...

[Alistairm]

Whether you choose to use them or not the hoods ship with the lens and Leica should be providing better quality. My 16--35 is so loose it’s almost unusable. I have had three separate CL60 hoods fail (plastic mounting ring internally unglues) and my dealer had told me Leica is redesigning it. 

Minor gripes given how excellent the glass is, but bizarre to have such a simple item so poorly implemented! Every Nikon hood I ever owned worked flawlessly. 

Edited March 19, 2019 by Alistairm

[Per P.]

22 hours ago, jonoslack said:

My Feelings exactly - all my lens hoods are safely stored in the original box (with the nice bag!)

Agree entirely. Except.... tripod photography in rainy conditions. When I curse myself for leaving the hood(s) at home.

[scott kirkpatrick]

Cmon, the 16-35 hood is tiny! Not a serious handicap while schlepping the SL and the 16-35 along with me to work this morning.

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[Leicaiste]

These huge lens hoods are one of the reasons I have often stopped short buying any SL lenses (until now).

There are not many practical camera bag (other than backpacks) which will accommodate the width of a set of SL zooms with their hoods attached (or stored separately in the bag).

The R lenses hoods were smarter and discreet. Maybe not as efficient as the SL’s as lens shades but certainly more efficient than lens hoods left at home.

I really don’t understand why the SL’s 75/2, 90/2 and 90-280 were not designed with a sliding hood. It beats me. 

Even the R-28 and R-28-90 had a compact sliding hood. 

Sadly, Panasonic and Sigma L lenses designers seem to agree with Leica’s.

[scott kirkpatrick]

Used the 16-35 at a Purim party for colleagues, kids 0-6 or so, and a few grad students who didn't find it beneath them.  With the hulking great lens shade installed.  Had to hold the camera somewhere away from my face to avoid scaring the littlest ones. Much as I like smaller cameras and primes, it was nice to have 21-35 mm at hand.

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[Vieri]

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Here is my review, where I compared the lens with the Voigt 15mm and the Vario-Elmarit-SL 24-90mm at equivalent focal lengths: 

https://vieribottazzini.com/2018/05/leica-super-vario-elmar-sl-16-35mm-f-3-5-4-5-asph-in-depth-review.html

Hope this helps. Best regards,

Vieri

[scott kirkpatrick]

Now I understand why small children run away from me when I prowl with the 16-35 and its not inconspicuous hood (not my shot):

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Edited March 22, 2019 by scott kirkpatrick

[caissa]

Simply leave away the hood. It makes no difference optically (IQ). All the hoods are bare ugly. (And in my opinion a bit ridiculous. After all you are not imitating a film crew, are you ?)

Edited March 22, 2019 by caissa

[mmradman]

2 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

Now I understand why small children run away from me when I prowl with the 16-35 and its not inconspicuous hood (not my shot):

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Japanese have some good ideas, probably to appeal to early to scare models, decorate camera in vivid colours and adorn with popular comic characters.