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littlelio
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Thanks Guys for the kind advice. And yes I did read the Long live the M-D thread! very helpful. Due to the budet, I picked M-D in the end, with a used 35 Summicron. Yes I will miss the possible V

SiOnara
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I changed my M10P to an M10D about 1 month ago. Was the best choice I ever made. I simply love the camera. I really find the lack of screen not a big problem with my style of shooting, and I'm st

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I'm not @tomconte just happy modest user of M-D (262) and plain M10 for many years, I can say that I understand Tom, M-D is so simple with enough "less" features to satisfy easy photographin

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I'm not @tomconte

just happy modest user of M-D (262) and plain M10 for many years, I can say that I understand Tom,

M-D is so simple with enough "less" features to satisfy easy photographing

M10-D added features are "gimmicks" for me, like false wind-on lever or programming with smartphone (which I don't use), thinner body is good thing, less so thinner battery,

but these added features can be used creatively by most people choosing M10-D

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5 hours ago, a.noctilux said:

I'm not @tomconte

......I can say that I understand Tom...(the)...M-D is so simple...

I'm not tomconte either but I expect he was alluding to the extraordinary (for a digital camera) simplicity of the M-D as mentioned by Arnaud above.

Effectively the only contols/parameters which can be set by the photographer on an M-D body are ISO and shutter-speed. Yes; there is a setting for self-timer and the wheel-thing on the rear-right of the top-plate can be used to control +/- exposure if the body is ever set to Automatic (Heaven Forfend!) but that's it.

As such shooting with the M-D is simply a case of selecting ISO, Shutter-speed, Aperture and Focus. Digital snapping with a Leica M could hardly be more basic.

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The wifi is very unreliable and buggy. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I can eat up a lot of time waiting for connection etc.

 

I have found the it works best if you have a small SD card because it seems to need to do a lot of indexing every time you open the app and you can't control anything until it is done. The more photos on the card the longer it takes.

Unfortunately that doesn't suit my style of shooting because I use the biggest SD card that works which is 512GB and have my Lightroom and Capture one catalogue directly on the card and work from that. I periodically back up the SD card as well.

Wha this means for me at least is that the wifi is basically useless and not something I can rely on. Which is a pity because its very useful to be able to hand the phone to say a creative director to view the images as you shoot them.

 

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I have an M11 for when I want to shoot like a digicammer.

What I wanted from the M10-D was an escape.  The M-D has four controls, period.  The M10-D has ... many. And you can cheat on yourself. You can open Fotos and use liveview. You can atttach a visoflex 020 and it's just like any other digital M.

So the choice of which to keep was easy.

Oh and the battery on the M-D is far better.

 

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On 1/14/2019 at 6:26 PM, littlelio said:

Hi guys, first post here.

I am not a Leica owner now but look forward to. After M10-P, I saw M10-D, which is without a LCD screen, and I think it is a perfect Leica now. So after years of hesitation, finally I think I may move on to Leica.

A very short introduction to myself, I am full photogaphy professional and mainly use Nikon, and also I am into Fuji. After pressinging shutter releases so many times, I need something special to continue my photography love or I may lose the sense of taking picture. For work, taking photos and staring at LCD makes me sick, and not necessary. The ISO/F-number/Shutter time is enough really, especially we are in dark environment, where the AF system is totally failing. I want to find something for myself - not the work - to purely record life. (and of course some nice landscape photos related to work would be great)

I like the Wifi idea in M10-D, to have some option - for emergency situation. But I hate the fake advance lever... the sensor in M-D is quite smilar, except for high-iso performance. I don't mind the thickness difference. However, I do like the Visoflex possibility with M10-D for critical focusing, and focus peaking. Some additional assistances will not harm, and I like to have choices.

Now I am looking at an M-D + a used 35 summicron which is at the same price of M10-D body only.

I have searched around in the forum, and people love M-D. Perhaps the reason is they have owned it, but anyway I am glad so many experience Leica owner here! Anyway comment is appreciated.

Oh, M60 is nice but maybe too much for me. and there is no strap holder...

Thanks!

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On 1/14/2019 at 10:34 PM, littlelio said:

Thanks for the input. I agree that for paid work, some assistance would be great/even essential. For me I would pick DSLR just to make sure... I don't think I would use live view on FOTOS app either, maybe do some settings, and view the image for quick sending on social network.

M10D surely is better, maybe for me it is just the price issue.

It is said the M-D would be difficult to sell since it has no screen. Do you agree? I have to consider this if I upgrade it in the future - or is it a stupid idea anyway... I don't know.

You can’t even buy one below the original price these days.  They are rare and in high demand…!

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On 11/12/2023 at 4:37 PM, plaidshirts said:

That’s the beauty of it. 

 

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On 1/15/2019 at 1:51 AM, plaidshirts said:

Here’s a post that may interest you: 

As an M-D owner myself I think the resale value will hold up since not too many of us seem too eager to upgrade to the M10-D. I consider my M-D as an extension of my film cameras as I use them in a very similar manner.

I’d recommend you try these before deciding. 

The MD is totally simplified as the MD10-D adds WiFi and a Fotos app…!

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On 1/18/2019 at 1:30 AM, poli said:

In general i think we are addicted to screens in our society. For me it’s refreshing and especially relaxing to take pics without relying on another digital screen. 

I am also in favour of the m-d above the m10-d since it does not have wifi, less options and choices in general and batterylife is longer. 😎

Exactly…!

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On 1/18/2019 at 8:55 AM, plaidshirts said:

People who have an M-D or want one like this feature (or lack of) so I don't think it'll affect its salability. It's just one less thing to fail on you.

Nope, they’re selling for more than the original price.  The rarity and demand is high…!

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On 4/3/2019 at 1:04 PM, DandA said:

Love the concept of the M-D and M10-D. One a bit more purest and the other with a bit more flexibility. It's a personal choice. I went with th M-D, eventually picking up a end one since not seen often for sale. Unfortunately between needing another car and shooting with other systems, something got to give and plan on selling one of them, but at least I'll still have one to shoot with.

 

One thing I noticed and maybe it's just a perception on my part, but the metering in the M-D seems to be more center weighted than a M240...maybe to help the shooter who cannot instantly review their images and results in a slightly more accurate exposure. Seems that way.

Dave (D&A)

It’s like a film camera.  You’re taking more time and concentration for a better shot…!

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These prices are shocking…!

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