lambroving Posted August 8, 2006 Share #1 Posted August 8, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) MP .58, 35/2 ASPH, f5.6 @ 125th, 100UC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dan_drabek Posted August 8, 2006 Share #2 Posted August 8, 2006 Excellent composition on this shot William. The clouds, the background cars, even the people all work together. Looks maybe just a half stop overexposed on my monitor. Otherwise a classic. DD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 8, 2006 Share #3 Posted August 8, 2006 William - Very well seen. Placing the trike close in the foreground, from edge to beyond center, made "large" by the 35, against the Moggie meet background is superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 8, 2006 Share #4 Posted August 8, 2006 MP .58, 35/2 ASPH, f5.6 @ 125th, 100UC. A nice and interesting POV but you should have taken the time to ask the driver of the BMW convertible to remove it from the scene. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 8, 2006 Share #5 Posted August 8, 2006 Ditto the gypsy encampment under the tree? Sometimes you have to work with what you've been presented with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 8, 2006 Share #6 Posted August 8, 2006 Ditto the gypsy encampment under the tree? not necessarily. The Gypsy camp adds to this picture and represents strives, endeavors and journeys to new horizons, still able to be concious of history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 8, 2006 Share #7 Posted August 8, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) The background's messy, but as Andy says outside of a studio that's something you have little control over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 8, 2006 Share #8 Posted August 8, 2006 Ditto the gypsy encampment under the tree? Not necessarily. The Gipsy camp adds to this picture and represents strives, endeavors and journeys to new horizons and a spoon full of concious history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted August 8, 2006 Share #9 Posted August 8, 2006 William, I really like the subtle colours and smooth tones you've captured here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share #10 Posted August 9, 2006 DD, Thanks! Very much appreciate your comment. It's not overexposed and looks O.K. (natural) on my good monitor, but I may have brightened it a hair in PSE2 before "saving for web" as that usually darkens an image. As you know, my skills are limited. On my contrasty work monitor it looks almost too dark. Since you are a picture editor, please feel free to adjust it as you see fit. I never know what the majority are seeing when I post anything as I suspect most are not on photo-editing monitors like ours. John & Stuart, Thanks for your comments. 100UC usually renders colors pretty accurately without too much punch, depending on the light. It is very fine-grained. You could try some 200 Elite negative in the U.K. which I believe is virtually the same stuff. Steve & Andy, Absolutely correct. This trike was parked near the entrance to the track car park and drew the attention of nearly everyone who passed. All cars entering passed between this trike and the red car. To the right is a steep hill on which were parked ~ 500 Morgans leading to the vendor's tents. I waited over ten minutes to grab this shot and had finally to chase a couple of people away. Lost my light twice! Ultimately I was able to grab this shot just as the people in almost "period" dress walked through the frame. There is no camping at Mallory so those "campers" probably belong to the major parts vendors who had about 12 tents. The Club campsite was miles away off the A5 near Hinckley. The scene looks like a MOG (Annual Morgan Owners Gathering) which it was! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_drabek Posted August 10, 2006 Share #11 Posted August 10, 2006 William, After loading your image into Photoshop, I have to retract my statement about the image being overexposed. I think it may only have a little excess contrast, but that can be a personal taste thing. Your shadows and highlights are slightly clipped. This often happens if you adjust the image using Brightness/Contrast controls in Photoshop. I played with the curves to bring things more into line, though it is hard to fix clipping once it's done, but I think there is a bit more shadow detail, and the tone transition is a little more even. How does this one look on your monitor? We may both be calibrated, but I'm calibrated for offset printing, so it may not look like an improvement on your screen, depending on how you calibrate. I'll be curious to find out. DD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_peter_m Posted August 10, 2006 Share #12 Posted August 10, 2006 Hi Dan. I am not William but comparing the original and your version I prefer the original. On my monitor the colors in your version look a bit to bright to me, specially the red Morgan and the green of the Trike is more pleasing to me on the original...... of course I never seen the real ones so I am just going be looks and personal preference. Your image lost some contrast in the mid-tones but that could be the image lost a bit of sharpness when you adjusted it. Nice image William. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share #13 Posted August 10, 2006 Hello DD, Thanks for making the effort. Just had a look at the full file in PSE2 and with just "auto levels" it looks like my post, only a hair darker. It is definitely the way I recall the scene. When I post a picture from these Agfa scans, I always struggle to get the post to look close to the scan. With my skills it's often a bear! Compression really hurts, but in this shot, not too much perhaps because the dynamic range is not extreme. It's amazing what you can do with your skills. If anyone else cares to comment, it would be interesting to see what others perceive. I'm using NEC/GretagMacbeth for callibration on a 1980SXi photo-editing monitor. Peter, Glad you enjoyed! Sometimes I get lucky with my Leicas, but I'll admit, THIS shot was a lot of work. There would not have been a second frame... I don't have a lot of patience either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinetar Posted August 10, 2006 Share #14 Posted August 10, 2006 I prefer the second because the engine shadow detail has improved for my eye. The trike in the first pic looks to be oversharpened but improved in the second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share #15 Posted August 10, 2006 I prefer the second because the engine shadow detail has improved for my eye. The trike in the first pic looks to be oversharpened but improved in the second. Gary, Your monitor must be similar to the Dell in my office. How is your Gamma adjusted? Maybe you have it dimmed for text too and need to turn it up for images? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_drabek Posted August 10, 2006 Share #16 Posted August 10, 2006 Actually, I didn't adjust the sharpness of the image, but reduced the contrast. Increasing contrast can often give the impression of sharpening, as it tends to force the edges of objects. But as I said, contrast is a rather personal thing. If we were all watching the same television set, we would most likely each want to adjust the contrast to different levels. I normally don't make adjustments to the shots of others (these days), and only did so at William's request. It is interesting to note that there is no "one size fits all" on the net when it comes to color, contrast and sharpness. It's an important thing to be aware of. DD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 10, 2006 Share #17 Posted August 10, 2006 Hello DD, Thanks for making the effort. Just had a look at the full file in PSE2 and with just "auto levels" it looks like my post, only a hair darker. You should have a play with just "Levels" and take control! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted August 10, 2006 Share #18 Posted August 10, 2006 The only thing missing in this photo is me sitting in the driver's seat. Great color and detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share #19 Posted August 10, 2006 Brent, Thanks! The Club may pick up this shot for next year's calender. Do you have a flying helmet? I'm sure he'd love to give you a ride. (A motorcycle helmet might be more appropriate. ) Trikes are seriously quick and can lft a front wheel in a turn when pushed. NOT for the faint of heart. I'm not man enough... Andy, Tried both. With PSE2, sometimes auto levels just works best. With your full version of PS, mileage may vary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_peter_m Posted August 11, 2006 Share #20 Posted August 11, 2006 It is interesting to note that there is no "one size fits all" on the net when it comes to color, contrast and sharpness. It's an important thing to be aware of. DD That is specially true when viewing on the web. The differences between the two images are not all that great and I ended up opening both side by side in PS to compare. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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