Mark Antony Posted July 12, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Those of you who read my blog will know that I recently acquired a bulk tin og Agfa Ansco film dated 1941. Today I did a clip of 6" length and much to my surprise it has images on it! and They have a high base fog, but seem to scan, more on my blog for those interested. Mark Photo Utopia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Hi Mark Antony, Take a look here 1941 Agfa film. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest stnami Posted July 12, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 12, 2007 grain lovers' delight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted July 12, 2007 Share #3 Posted July 12, 2007 You were hoping to find it empty so you could have a go:p? Interesting project you have yourself now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted July 13, 2007 Share #4 Posted July 13, 2007 mark .. for a moment i though that the film was already exposed in 1941 and you just developed it.. looks vintage .. even the scene looks like from old pics or movie ) really intersting.. as far as i know u scan well so i guess this will be in the range of the optical print from it more or less Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted July 13, 2007 Yes guys, its 1:00 am now here and do you think I can sleep? I developed these with a sense of almost can't be bothered, you know 5 mins dev at roughly 20C swishing the tank every so many secs. I still have quite a bit of film left, about 5 rolls! Vic these were not exposed by me and as the film was made between 1938-42-who knows? Need sleep..... more images: Gentlemen there will be no war with Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 13, 2007 Share #6 Posted July 13, 2007 ....... looks like the war was going well, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metroman Posted July 13, 2007 Share #7 Posted July 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mark: I have been looking forward to this and it doesn't disappoint! Ghosts from the past - shades of Poliakoffs 'Shooting the Past' - what happened to them I wonder? I love the instructions with the film, how often do you see 'Avoirdupois' these days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephan_w Posted July 13, 2007 Share #8 Posted July 13, 2007 Incredible! This could be the stuff of a novel! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 13, 2007 Share #9 Posted July 13, 2007 I think that with right choices of post processing and printing, you could obtain a VERY FASCINATING gallery exhibition...and moreover if there is any kind of even small insight to start investigating about WHO and WHEN and WHERE... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share #10 Posted July 13, 2007 The film is basically a short clip test, as I'd hoped to actually try the film with a vintage lens on my Leica. But I'm stunned by the images, the film is fogged either by light or age, rays whatever but the fact that after 66+ years anything at all was on the film. Agfa Ultra-speed was the fastest film available in 1938, I think 160 asa roughly a modern equivalent would be TMax 3200 so that might explain the grain. I'm obviously going to develop the rest of the short length, there may be more images and I still may get to pet some though a camera and shoot some myself. I'd love to do an exhibition or even just a magazine article, but I'm not sure where to start and I have the feeling I'm still in the middle of the experience, some reflection may be needed before I develop my latent thoughts. Regards Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted July 13, 2007 Share #11 Posted July 13, 2007 Very interesting Mark! You found a goldmine for both photographers and historians! Take care and enjoy. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted July 14, 2007 Share #12 Posted July 14, 2007 ok ok man.. understand now........ wow..... now i suddenly fully realize the exitement you have from thsi processss........ great man........ let me jump to your blog to seee it there tooo......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artichoke Posted July 14, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 14, 2007 that I found on your blog Those of you who read my blog will know that I recently acquired a bulk tin og Agfa Ansco film dated 1941. They have a high base fog, but seem to scan, more on my blog for those interested. Mark Photo Utopia "Sons of the Desert" good to see another Laurel & Hardy fan you have stumbled upon a treasure trove of analog photographs ...don't know if these were taken digitally that they would have the same impact, even if digital were available then ...the halide's ripening over the years may have had something to do with the fascinating quality of these thanks for sharing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted July 15, 2007 Share #14 Posted July 15, 2007 I am a bit confused by this .... are you saying that the bulk film has all been exposed and thus there are images on it? And if so, is it an uncut length of bulk film ie not in 36 or w.h.y.? exposure lengths? i.e. still an original bulk film length? Could it thus have been in a "reporter" type camera ie a Leica 250? Or might it be a bulk roll of duplicated images? If these are original exposures then maybe Geoffrey Crawley (Amateur Photographer writer probably UK's foremost film processing technical expert ) might be very interested to examine and comment on the film ... and he would almost certainly be able to offer advice on how to get a bit more quality from them if you still have some undeveloped lengths. Dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted July 15, 2007 Share #15 Posted July 15, 2007 Mark, I had similar experience last night. Kicking around in my desk drawer has been an old roll of Agfa ISS film, which came from one of my Grandad's old cameras (probably his Yashica Electro). He passed away in 1981. For some time I've been looking at this roll, wondering if there was anything on it. I didn't even know if it was colour or B/W. Having had enough of my computer yesterday evening (just done my end of year accounts - yawn!), I thought I would find out more about the film. Once I knew it was B/W film, I just had a go - just guessed a bit at dev times and gave it a bit more at 9.30 in Ilfosol. Anyway this is one of the frames - I was straight down into my cellar to print a frame up. Emailed it to my family and guess what - my Uncle wrote back saying it was taken on 11th October 1970 and he took it! In many ways it was much more exciting than your usual developing as you have no idea what part of the past it will bring back. Best wishes, Charlie The picture is a scan of the print and tweaked a bit in LR1.1 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/28836-1941-agfa-film/?do=findComment&comment=306153'>More sharing options...
Guest Metroman Posted July 15, 2007 Share #16 Posted July 15, 2007 Charlie: that was a nice surprise! Did you find out where it was taken? There are a couple of sites I enjoy on this theme: Lost Film Look At Me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted July 15, 2007 Share #17 Posted July 15, 2007 Andy, I emailed the scan last night as soon as the print was dry to my family. My Grandmother in the picture is still alive at 92 in Vancouver. My Uncle in Hong Kong emailed me back to say that he took the photo on 11th October 1970 at the Vatican, complete with a Chinese poem that my Grandfather had written. He was Professor of Chinese Classics in Hong Kong and wrote a poem to celebrate how delighted he was to have climbed St Peter's Basilica Dome at the age of 70! I was chuffed to bits. The wonders of modern technology! Best wishes, Charlie Charlie: that was a nice surprise! Did you find out where it was taken? There are a couple of sites I enjoy on this theme: Lost Film Look At Me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share #18 Posted July 15, 2007 I am a bit confused by this .... are you saying that the bulk film has all been exposed and thus there are images on it? And if so, is it an uncut length of bulk film ie not in 36 or w.h.y.? exposure lengths? i.e. still an original bulk film length? Could it thus have been in a "reporter" type camera ie a Leica 250? Or might it be a bulk roll of duplicated images? If these are original exposures then maybe Geoffrey Crawley (Amateur Photographer writer probably UK's foremost film processing technical expert ) might be very interested to examine and comment on the film ... and he would almost certainly be able to offer advice on how to get a bit more quality from them if you still have some undeveloped lengths. Dunk The film is Agfa loads a kind of bulk film, precut into lengths with shaped leaders. It is entirely possible that the photographer didn't have enough cassettes and put the film back in the tin. I still have 4.5 films left- this was a clip test. The reason I've held off is to take advice on how to develop the rest, the film is badly fogged, I have a lot of experience with processing (I owned my own Prolab) so I'm taking advice AP have been contacted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapfile Posted July 15, 2007 Share #19 Posted July 15, 2007 Mark Antony, Hard to date the period from the mens attire, but the print dresses on all the women seem to be late 30's, early 40's. Nice job, Jerry Pfile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted July 15, 2007 Share #20 Posted July 15, 2007 Mark, you're going to have some fun. looks like some sort of office party - pretty smart sort of do Best wishes, Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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