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1969 35mm Summilux v2 pre asph on M10-P

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Some camera porn! Brass infinity lock, #216 

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3 hours ago, shirubadanieru said:

Some camera porn! Brass infinity lock, #216 

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What does “infinity lock” mean?  Yours looks just like mine …

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6 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said:

What does “infinity lock” mean?  Yours looks just like mine …

The early lux models have an infinity lock (as other older lenses from Leica), in which you have to press to unlock and focus. These versions are rarer. There are two different versions of infinity lock; 1) Brass lock, 2) Aluminum lock. All lenses after this early batch have no infinity lock, and just a focus tab. 

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9 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said:

What does “infinity lock” mean?  Yours looks just like mine …

The v1 ("Steel-Rim") and early v2 35mm Summilux lenses carried-over the 'infinity lock' idea which had been a feature of Leica lenses since the very early days. If you look at the lens in Shirubadanieru's photograph you will notice a gold-coloured elipse-shape; that is a 'button' which needs to be depressed before the focus tab can be moved from the infinity position.

It is a detail which excites collectors.

Philip.

EDIT : I see Shirubadanieru was answering at the same time!...:lol:...

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And a shot with said lens :) wide open on the M11

 

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9 hours ago, pippy said:

The v1 ("Steel-Rim") and early v2 35mm Summilux lenses carried-over the 'infinity lock' idea which had been a feature of Leica lenses since the very early days. If you look at the lens in Shirubadanieru's photograph you will notice a gold-coloured elipse-shape; that is a 'button' which needs to be depressed before the focus tab can be moved from the infinity position.

It is a detail which excites collectors.

Philip.

EDIT : I see Shirubadanieru was answering at the same time!...:lol:...

And they take better pictures?

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I like to loiter in alleyways in St Ives after dark. Looking at people........
M4 + Summilux-M 35 v2 + Delta 400

 

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2 hours ago, IkarusJohn said:

And they take better pictures?

My infinity lock serial number is a Steel rim serial number, meaning the glass is the same. Having used both lenses, I do prefer the steel rim over the v2, plus the infinity lock benefit is that some lenses can focus down to 0.8m (like mine can). So to me, yes it’s the best summilux version out there, but the differences are not significant enough for me to tell you to go get xxx serial number if that’s not what you’re looking for or if you are happy with your summilux. All pre-asph luxes are great, but given the long production period + the time in which they were produced, there are some slight variations / changes throughout the years. The Germany-made ones for example flare less and glow less compared to the regular v2. The steel rim / some infinity lock ones flare / glow as much as regular v2 but they have a different bokeh and are quite sharp under that glow at f1.4, giving it a unique rendering which I do love. Again, minimal differences, but differences nonetheless.  

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I must admit I've tended to be sceptical about these differences in rendering between the different pre-asph summilux versions. On the other hand, I've never made direct comparisons so I'm in no position to contradict to those that have.  Also, I have read somewhere something to the effect that changing glass formulations have meant changes to refractive indices which required small alterations to element shape, all of which sounds perfectly plausible. Whatever the final effect I suppose it all adds to the mystique of the lens.

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1 hour ago, sinjun said:

I must admit I've tended to be sceptical about these differences in rendering between the different pre-asph summilux versions. On the other hand, I've never made direct comparisons so I'm in no position to contradict to those that have.  Also, I have read somewhere something to the effect that changing glass formulations have meant changes to refractive indices which required small alterations to element shape, all of which sounds perfectly plausible. Whatever the final effect I suppose it all adds to the mystique of the lens.

I can only distinguish:

  • Steel Rim & Transitional v2 Infinity Lock (serial 216xxx) —> these have V1 glass, which was very short lived
  • V2 Canada —> can’t distinguish any differences across the years
  • V2 Germany (regular & titanium) —> sharper wide open / less glow & flare VS canada made one
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1969 35mm Summilux pre asph v2

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35 Summilux v2 1981 on M10-P

Talking about coma ... click on picture for a better viewing quality !

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1969 35mm Summilux v2 on M10-P

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21 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I like to loiter in alleyways in St Ives after dark. Looking at people........
M4 + Summilux-M 35 v2 + Delta 400

 

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I like these a lot. Very moody.

Thanks for sharing.

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m3, summilux 35 pre-asph (v2 Canada), fp4+ (dd-x 1+4), printed on mgfb and scanned

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Am 3.2.2022 um 15:01 schrieb shirubadanieru:

This is a great combo! But I think the 50mm lux pre-asph v2/3 rendering wide open is not as magical as the 35mm lux. If you want a similar glow wide open to the summilux 35mm f1.4, while also being sharp from f2.8, then in the 50mm lineup I can think of three examples: 

- Summilux pre-asph 50mm f1.4 V1 (Chrome, slight different optics to the V2)

- Summicron Collapsible 50mm V1 

- Noctilux 50mm f1.2 (remake obviously)

Summicron Collapsible does draw differently ( I have a clean one).

Summilux pre ASPH E43 (v2) does fit the 35 Summilux pre ASPH very good though.

I am speaking of film, digital its another story.

Matter of taste, as always.

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