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shirubadanieru Posted January 25, 2021 Share #164 Posted January 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Steven said: Somebody changed his mind 😜 Haha the 8 elements is still my recommendation overall as it focuses down to 0.7m and has a great rendering, so if I had to pick one single lens that could be an overall better option, but the steel rim is more unique wide open and gives me one extra sto. From F2 and beyond it’s pretty much the same as the 8e. Originally when I wrote this I got the lux with goggles but after using it for a while I really didn’t like them (the finder becomes too small and it’s harder to focus). So yeah, in the end I just went for the regular lux. I did try all 50mm and all 35mm crons & luxes to see which one I liked the most and after doing so I thought I would land with the 8e & rigid, two summicrons, both e39, it’s a perfect set But the steel rim was too special and I found one for a great price so the 8e lost it’s spot hehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted February 1, 2021 Share #165 Posted February 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Steven said: To give myself a little hope right now, I am telling myself that the Pre Asph lux is like an unbroken horse. You gotta force your way to make him listen. Ahhh. You have the Leica company/user interaction backwards. it is the job of Leica users to break themselves to Leica's way of doing things. Or eventually give up and leave in frustration. Look at the very first response to this thread (post #2) - you had full and clear warning about how the Summilux pre-ASPH behaves at f/1.4. It should not have come as a surprise. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 1, 2021 Share #166 Posted February 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Steven said: Actually, post 2 was the first post on this thread to convince me to get the lens. Yep, you bear a part of responsibility lol! But the photos you posted are glowy, i dont dislike it. And you dont have flare in them. My results seem almost like a joke ! I ll try to post an example later. Anyway, I’m not pretending to be surprised. I knew what i was getting into, this is why ill try harder. Many of you, for example @evikne, sold the lens many times before it became their all time favorite. I suspected that this lens might not be for you. As you mention, it took me some time to get along with it (but now it's become my new favorite). It's probably not a lens for beginners though, due to its "capricious behavior". 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted February 1, 2021 Share #167 Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I wonder if your Voigtlander said ‘Leica’ on the side, that you wouldn’t be having this conversation, so why the need to have Gucci Rolex written on your lens if it already brings satisfaction ? is it simply that the internet paints a picture of greener grass elsewhere ? On an audio forum I have used, people will talk up the special sound only obtained after painful search for some rare component, which despite always being more expensive, harder to find, technically worse etc. is the only one they can now listen to. Eventually there are no good copies to be found, prices skyrocket, people report their amazing luck of finding a perfect copy for peanuts and are just in raptures about how everybody else is listening to inferior components. Well, that’s audio, but as a new member here I am wondering if lenses are falling in this psychology too. Which is why I bought a pre asph 50mm lux, bp version 4, lucky that it seems to be in Mint condition and was a great deal! 😀 Edited February 1, 2021 by Mr.Prime 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 1, 2021 Share #168 Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, Steven said: Are you calling me a beginner ? 😳🤡😂 New to the Leica world. 😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted February 1, 2021 Share #169 Posted February 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Steven said: So let me clarify one thing: I HATE MY VOIGLANDER. I havent gotten one picture worth remembering with it after 6 month of use. Wow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 1, 2021 Share #170 Posted February 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Steven said: Fair enough. When do i lose the newbie title though ? It’s almost my 1 year anniversary. Maybe when you settle down, stop trying everything, and feel that you've found your place in the Leica universe? I mostly feel like a beginner myself, with only four and a half years with Leica. 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 1, 2021 Share #171 Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, Steven said: Does that ever happen ? I feel I am almost there … 😬 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 1, 2021 Share #172 Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steven said: until.......... 😅 You can almost see it on the purchase frequency. The longer between each purchase, the closer you are. But no one knows what temptations will come in the future. 😄 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benqui Posted February 1, 2021 Share #173 Posted February 1, 2021 Gerade eben schrieb evikne: But no one knows what temptations will come in the future. 😄 Ha ha, you nailed it! I always told myself this is for sure the last camera........ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted February 1, 2021 Share #174 Posted February 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, evikne said: Maybe when you settle down, stop trying everything, and feel that you've found your place in the Leica universe? I mostly feel like a beginner myself, with only four and a half years with Leica. 🙂 Well, there is this hope that by following in the footsteps of others, by reading the opinions of people we never met, do not know, but post on to forums etc. - we can short circuit the process of travelling our own journey. We want to leverage our wealth to buy our way to the answer. After all, somebody said somewhere that life is short & brutal. Why not try ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted February 1, 2021 Share #175 Posted February 1, 2021 yikes, see what you mean. Perhaps this lens ‘shines’ (forgive the pun) in daylight conditions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted February 1, 2021 Share #176 Posted February 1, 2021 I never had this lens, so I assume it is a case of “when you have a small stone in your shoe, you might learn to plant your foot differently” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 1, 2021 Share #177 Posted February 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Steven said: I gotta give it another go. But I wonder how others have managed it at night so far ? It seemed totally unusable to me. As far as I remember, you wanted a small, fast lens to use primarily at night? That was when I began to doubt whether this was the right lens for you. I mostly use mine in good light conditions and open it fully up only in rare occasions, when I want that special look. For close portraits I usually use it between f/2.0 and 2.8, and I stop further down for other types of pictures. The distinctive, old fashioned look that I love never really disappears, although it's obviously most prominent at large apertures. I even love the flare, at least when it's intended and somewhat under control. But when I really need to shoot wide open, I much prefer my FLE. A small, fast and good lens seems to be an almost an impossible combination, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 1, 2021 Share #178 Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Steven said: So I just went to walk the dog around the block with my SL2-S and the Steel Rim. It was very ..... flary.... and glowy.... It is indeed the character of this lens. As someone stated in this very thread "Little reason to acquire a 35/1.4 v2 if you don't like its glow at f/1.4 IMHO. Beware that this lens flares a lot more than your 35/2 v4". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 1, 2021 Share #179 Posted February 1, 2021 @Steven The thing is, each old lens has their own rendering and you need time with them to learn how to best use them (and when not to use them). I remember in the beginning of my Leica journey (it’s been 7 years now wow!) when I was trying a bunch of things and selling them fast after a few outings with it, that I had a summicron 8 elements and I hated it because wide open shot at 5m or so everything looked soft and glowy...so given I was used to ASPH perfection I got really disappointed and sold it. Fast forward a few years later, Summicron 8 elements is my favorite lens Leica has made (alongside the Summilux Steel Rim & Rigid Cron). The fact of the matter is, these lens will flare and it’s easy to see when they’ll do; sometimes I do want it to flare so I know how to shoot to get that look. When I don’t want it to flare I also know how not to have it flare. They will also look soft wide open (either at f2 or f1.4 depending on the lens), so you definitely don’t want to be shooting at these apertures for regular street shots / landscape and so on. But you do want to use them wide open when you want to create a beautiful dreamy rendering (since these lens tend not to be overly corrected bokeh looks much more attractive to me at least) or if you want to shoot close up portraits, which from my POV all of the three lenses I mentioned above excel at doing so much more than the lens that followed them. When you want maximum performance at close & long ranges you should use f2.8~f8 apertures. This is where these lens perform amazingly (as well as new ASPH lens), which make them perfect for street given their compact size. The reason why I love these lens beyond it’s size and light weight, is that you have two lenses in one (wide open rendering and from f2.8 rendering), and you have to use them to their strengths. If you do so, they are amazing lens that (to me) offer a much more beautiful and unique rendering than modern lens. [fyi: this also goes for the Noctilux 50mm f1.2 remake by the way, which I’m assuming it’s even softer / dreamier at f1.2 than the lens mentioned above, so just think what you actually want from a lens before purchasing]. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcusick Posted February 2, 2021 Share #180 Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) I made a similar 35mm journey - 35mm cron apsh v2 - at first didn't fall in love due to being too modern and heavy 35mm summilix pre apsh - early canadian - sold in favor of a late german version 35mm cron v4 - still have it; like it for color photos - especially portraits, but wanted more contrast for nature shots 35mm cron v1 - sharper than v4 but low contrast; sold it in favor of keeping a later summilux pre 35mm summilux pre late german version - kept but use for black and white film where the coma and lack of contrast are positives 35mm summaron - love it; small and great build; higher resolution than modern lenses; ok contrast; may become my favorite small walk-around lens 35mm summilux pre fle- liked it; sold it to get the fle- however 35mm summarit - sold it; not as high resolution or contrast as the cron apsh 35mm fle - kept it; best lens I own; only downside is size for hiking So... I've settled on the fle as my portrait / art lens, the summilux pre as my black and white film lens, and then a toss up between the cron apsh and the summaron as my walk-around hiking lenses. I'm debating whether to sell the cron v4... Its just I've gotten a few striking photos from it... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 2, 2021 by rcusick 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4131400'>More sharing options...
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