schattenundlicht Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share #41 Posted April 9, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Any word on when the silver version will be released? The silver version, to me, is a no-go. It will be made from chromed brass, which due to the increase in weight, totally upsets the perfect balance that the black Refractomar has on the M10. An ergonomics nightmare! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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schattenundlicht Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share #42 Posted April 9, 2018 The next Leica product release will be a small red leica logo with no camera body or lens at all. This minimal design approach forces the photographer to forget about mechanical devices and use his or her eye and mind to memorize visual images and save them in the cerebral cortex thus affording the user a more pure visual experience. This might be the first Leica, Ansel Adams would have approved. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schattenundlicht Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share #43 Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Re use in outer space: does the replacement of the air in the lens by a vacuum alter the character of the images? (Serious question)Serious reply [OT in this thread ]: The wavelength of light in vacuum is slightly longer than in air. Thus the difference between refractive indices on air/glass boundaries within a lens will be slightly different, potentially affecting aberration correction (although most propably only measurably, not visibly). On a different note: Didn‘t you ever note the horrible lateral chromatic aberration in Apollo‘s Hasselblad shots of the earthrise? Edited April 9, 2018 by schattenundlicht 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schattenundlicht Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share #44 Posted April 9, 2018 I made some of these for Zone 6 4x5. Drawing some lines in the air, I was able to rise /fall, shift l/r. Great fun. Not sharp enough for 35 mm. You need to make a burr free hole and it is very difficult. Put it in your enlarger and see the edges. Sites sell pro made holes. Following Leica’s lead, Nikon will release an elaborate f/286 PC-E T/S pinhole at Photokina! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schattenundlicht Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share #45 Posted April 9, 2018 I understand that this is a ground-breaking 100% scratch resistant lens. [...]The pan-focus model shown in the OP is very appealing but I look forward to the autofocus version. Pete. That will unfortunately be reserved for the upcoming Refractomar-SL 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted April 9, 2018 Share #46 Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Cash in hand ready, but I'll wait for the LHSA APO-Noctilux-M version Edited April 9, 2018 by dugby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted April 9, 2018 Share #47 Posted April 9, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Cash in hand ready, but I'll wait for the LHSA APO-Noctilux-M version That will be the one in black paint rather than black chrome I assume? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted April 9, 2018 Share #48 Posted April 9, 2018 There is also a rumour that Leica are working on an even more interesting version - the Tri-Refractomar-M which is based on the rotating Waterhouse Stop principle. This will be a first for a digital rangefinder if it proves practical to build this triple air lens to Leica's required tolerances. It will also feature an 'expanding hood' based on the concept used for the FIKUS. Overcoming the technical problems will be a challenge and the cost will be high but the price of progress is never cheap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted April 9, 2018 Share #49 Posted April 9, 2018 It's already shipping! I heard about this lens a while ago and my dealer agreed to take a deposit, so I just got one of the very early production units. Below a couple of test shots with the MM. f/110 is a bit slow, but there's little distortion and micro-contrast is to die for. Not sure I like the 24mm focal length, though. I need to spend more time with the lens to better understand it - very exciting. Also, while it makes the camera pocketable, it has created an empty space in my custom-made ostrich bag, so now I need another lens to fill the empty space and keep the leather from creasing on my next trip to the Emirates. What would others recommend? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283496-leica-%E2%80%9Elens-less%E2%80%9C-lens-rumor-confirmed/?do=findComment&comment=3496788'>More sharing options...
schattenundlicht Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share #50 Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) It's already shipping! I heard about this lens a while ago and my dealer agreed to take a deposit, so I just got one of the very early production units. Below a couple of test shots with the MM. f/110 is a bit slow, but there's little distortion and micro-contrast is to die for. Not sure I like the 24mm focal length, though. I need to spend more time with the lens to better understand it - very exciting. Also, while it makes the camera pocketable, it has created an empty space in my custom-made ostrich bag, so now I need another lens to fill the empty space and keep the leather from creasing on my next trip to the Emirates. What would others recommend? Exhilarating to see that your production copy of the Refractomar-M works even better than the prototype I had for review. This will become a lens of fame & legend! Edited April 9, 2018 by schattenundlicht Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted April 9, 2018 Share #51 Posted April 9, 2018 Exhilarating to see that your production copy of the Refractomar-M works even better than the prototype I had for review. This will become a lens of fame & legend! Yes - I believe they managed to tame the highlights a bit, while retaining the classic Leica glow. Rumors say they had a special nano coating developed for this lens, which explains the hefty price tag. However, I believe our grand-grand children will thank us, as I can easily see its value go up. P.S.: if this thread keeps going, I wonder how many inquiries regarding the Refractomar-M the dealers will get in the next few days 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted April 9, 2018 Share #52 Posted April 9, 2018 And another one from me - seems like I have some time on my hands today... MM again, no post-processing. Certainly a steep learning curve ahead, but the more I use this lens, the more I appreciate its gentle transition from OOF to OOF. If only they could make a 28mm version... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283496-leica-%E2%80%9Elens-less%E2%80%9C-lens-rumor-confirmed/?do=findComment&comment=3496886'>More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 9, 2018 Share #53 Posted April 9, 2018 With the results you've shown here I really do wonder why anyone would bother with a Noctilux - the pinhole images are far more 'dreamy'. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onasj Posted April 9, 2018 Share #54 Posted April 9, 2018 Wow this is amazing and being a Leica fan I would pay exorbitant sums to try this revolutionary lens. Would you like to trade your copy of this lens for my 75 noct? If that is not enticing enough, I am happy to sweeten the deal. The bokeh is truly among the best I have ever seen— even better than the noctiluxes wide open. It’s almost as though the entire image, corner to corner, is one huge bokeh ball. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted April 9, 2018 Share #55 Posted April 9, 2018 With the results you've shown here I really do wonder why anyone would bother with a Noctilux - the pinhole images are far more 'dreamy'. Because it's cheaper? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted April 9, 2018 Share #56 Posted April 9, 2018 You wish. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted April 9, 2018 Share #57 Posted April 9, 2018 When does the camera-less version appear? Photokina? Will Leica make a platinum version limited edition as well? Albert 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted April 9, 2018 Share #58 Posted April 9, 2018 When the MTF charts are replaced with the WTF charts. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted April 9, 2018 Share #59 Posted April 9, 2018 ... Will Leica make a platinum version limited edition as well? Albert No platinum edition, but there are already rumours that due to the overwhelming reception of this new lens Leica is contemplating a titanium ultra-limited edition for the Leica aficionados. Despite being made of metal, it will match the 'regular' version's low weight, but will offer even more precision and longevity, due to significantly reduced abrasion by in and out flowing air. Price is estimated to be 24,999.- € incl. VAT, and will include a hand sewn leather carrying case which may be fitted to the camera strap to ensure perfect protection of this lens when lesser lenses are used. Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onasj Posted April 9, 2018 Share #60 Posted April 9, 2018 This is rapidly becoming my favorite thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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