Paul J Posted April 5, 2018 Share #81 Posted April 5, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is it possible that the client is naive about the need for resolution or is there a justifiable need for it? Not naive at all. Once you have it, and you see how good it is, it's difficult even shooting with 50MP. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chuck Albertson Posted April 5, 2018 Share #82 Posted April 5, 2018 The price increase seems to be US-only for now. Not sure we should be reading tea leaves to find any secret meaning. A year ago, 1 Euro cost $1.06. Today it costs $1.22. 'Nuff said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tllabron Posted April 10, 2018 Share #83 Posted April 10, 2018 18 megapixels is totally enough for all industry. You don't need more even you want to print picture for building. Sorry, That is a bunch of horse pucky. That is like saying all you need is a 35mm film image to suit everyone and that is far from true. That same image produced with a 6X7CM image or even a 4X5 inch image is superior to that of the 35mm image. The detail in a 4X5 image is far superior to that which is rendered in a 35mm image. Although it seems that we are at an impasse at present since it looks like we may be stuck at the 50 and 100 Mp range since anything higher does not seem possible. Hassy has a 400MP unit but it is only for stationary subjects. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 10, 2018 Share #84 Posted April 10, 2018 Sorry, That is a bunch of horse pucky. That is like saying all you need is a 35mm film image to suit everyone and that is far from true. That same image produced with a 6X7CM image or even a 4X5 inch image is superior to that of the 35mm image. The detail in a 4X5 image is far superior to that which is rendered in a 35mm image. Although it seems that we are at an impasse at present since it looks like we may be stuck at the 50 and 100 Mp range since anything higher does not seem possible. Hassy has a 400MP unit but it is only for stationary subjects. and stationery cameras ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 10, 2018 Share #85 Posted April 10, 2018 and stationery cameras ... Are those made out of paper? Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramzes Posted April 11, 2018 Share #86 Posted April 11, 2018 ....coming from the Ukraine https://leicarumors.com/2018/03/26/51487.aspx/ now look ZD 1,have same size cmos like 36X24,so,if it pressed in to 42.4m pix. IT have same field depth with SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted April 17, 2018 Share #87 Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I don’t doubt you, but how did all this work get done 7 years ago when almost no one had access to >50 MP? I wonder if your client could tell the difference if you up-resed an S007 file shot with Leica prime lens to 50+ MP and changed the EXIF to Hassey H5D 50c? Or better yet, a blind print from said file s007 file? From what I’ve seen, the S system still delivers exceptional image quality. This MP race can’t go on forever... 100% correct. My commercial images, particularly of faces, hands with jewelry etc. are no longer acceptable to the client unless at very high resolution. 50MP makes the grade, 100 preferred. Admitted this is specialized use but you go where the work is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited April 17, 2018 by paulsydaus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1713 Posted April 18, 2018 Share #88 Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) I don't think we should get too hung up on sheer quality. It does depend on the advertised mediums too, where the final product is client facing and on the executive who signs off on the expenses. They are getting razor sharp in assessing the returns. I have an auditor who came to assess my work during a shoot. I would say he's like a Leica forum amateur, deeply knowledgeable both in photography and the print output costs. Just happens he's also a curious board member who wants to audit costs of the company informally. It's happening more frequently to me in a variety of ways. I think it's the iPhone effect. Edited April 18, 2018 by lx1713 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1713 Posted April 24, 2018 Share #89 Posted April 24, 2018 Thinking about the iPhone. I would like it if the SL2 can fit an internal SIM card for the ability to directly upload images. The components will be obsolete in just a couple of years unless it's a modular unit. Made to be easily replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted April 24, 2018 Share #90 Posted April 24, 2018 This MP race can’t go on forever... I think this has been said before. When cameras were 6MP. And then 12, 16, 18, and 24. It'll be said again when phones are shooting in 16K and 200MP stills. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1713 Posted April 25, 2018 Share #91 Posted April 25, 2018 If storage is cheap enough and computing power is sufficient to make my impatience go away, I would be happy to deal with 100mp files. It would be too good a deal to say no then. And that day doesn't seem too far away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted April 25, 2018 Share #92 Posted April 25, 2018 If storage is cheap enough and computing power is sufficient to make my impatience go away, I would be happy to deal with 100mp files. It would be too good a deal to say no then. And that day doesn't seem too far away. Last time i looked lossless-compressed 14Bit Raw files for Nikon D850 [>40Mp] were round 40-45Mp mark - same as SL601 which does not offer compression. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fett-Film Posted April 25, 2018 Share #93 Posted April 25, 2018 Would be nice to have an ML(10), M10 with the EVF from the SL. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted April 25, 2018 Share #94 Posted April 25, 2018 Last time i looked lossless-compressed 14Bit Raw files for Nikon D850 [>40Mp] were round 40-45Mp mark - same as SL601 which does not offer compression. If the SL is like the M10, the default and only mode is lossless-compressed DNG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 25, 2018 Share #95 Posted April 25, 2018 Would be nice to have an ML(10), M10 with the EVF from the SL. I think that is a camera not only Leica is struggling with conceptually - it raises hackles here just mentioning it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 25, 2018 Share #96 Posted April 25, 2018 If storage is cheap enough and computing power is sufficient to make my impatience go away, I would be happy to deal with 100mp files. It would be too good a deal to say no then. And that day doesn't seem too far away. Having had the A7r and D800e, it’s not the file sizes that would bother me. More MP requires more disciplined technique for little gain (for me). In all honesty, the 18MP of my Monochrom and 24 MP of my SL and TL2 is more than sufficient. More? Fine, provided I don’t lose anything - otherwise, I hope Leica continue to make a 24MP version. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted April 25, 2018 Share #97 Posted April 25, 2018 If the SL is like the M10, the default and only mode is lossless-compressed DNG. I am not so sure. Back in M240 days i could select between compressed and uncompressed Raw, difference was twice the file size, 20 or 40 Mb. This tells me SL601 files can only be uncompressed as both cameras are 24Mp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1713 Posted April 26, 2018 Share #98 Posted April 26, 2018 Having had the A7r and D800e, it’s not the file sizes that would bother me. More MP requires more disciplined technique for little gain (for me). In all honesty, the 18MP of my Monochrom and 24 MP of my SL and TL2 is more than sufficient. More? Fine, provided I don’t lose anything - otherwise, I hope Leica continue to make a 24MP version. This is not an argument right? It's a very reasonable place to be. 24mp Given enough processing power and the fact that I know that down sizing is going to give me what I need, I will work accordingly for those conditions. For example, there were situations today where I know only 8mp is needed, I didn't bother to work at 24mp shot discipline that's needed. Getting the shot at 8mp requirement even if my camera is 100mp is a freedom. I will use as I need it, tighten up discipline when it's critical. Down sizing at 24mp to 8mp is easy on my current computer but not 100mp but if my computer has enough grunt. No problem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJNY Posted April 28, 2018 Share #99 Posted April 28, 2018 https://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-made-a-new-full-frame-camera-for-leica/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted April 28, 2018 Share #100 Posted April 28, 2018 Panasonic China..made a sample [ prototype ?] https://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-made-a-new-full-frame-camera-for-leica/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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