Martin B Posted March 27, 2018 Share #181 Posted March 27, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't really understand the purpose of these luxury bags in the first place - a regular (Leica) photographer won't use them since inconspicuous looking bags are much more preferred. Collectors with lots of money won't need them either since they are not carrying Leica camera and lenses with them around at all and rather keep them in a safe or on a shelf at home. So who is the target group? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 Hi Martin B, Take a look here Luxury Camera Bags by Thorsten von Overgaard. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ernstk Posted March 27, 2018 Share #182 Posted March 27, 2018 Don't really understand the purpose of these luxury bags in the first place - a regular (Leica) photographer won't use them since inconspicuous looking bags are much more preferred. Collectors with lots of money won't need them either since they are not carrying Leica camera and lenses with them around at all and rather keep them in a safe or on a shelf at home. So who is the target group? Bizarrely, I think that Thorsten himself is the 'target group'. This is vanity manufacturing in its purest form. The client is personal ego. Ernst 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 27, 2018 Share #183 Posted March 27, 2018 Don't really understand the purpose of these luxury bags in the first place - a regular (Leica) photographer won't use them since inconspicuous looking bags are much more preferred. Collectors with lots of money won't need them either since they are not carrying Leica camera and lenses with them around at all and rather keep them in a safe or on a shelf at home. So who is the target group? There’s a Daily Mail article about his wife, Joy Villa, that may help explain the target market. I’ll not post a link as it may get the post deleted, but let’s just say it’s an eye opener. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted March 27, 2018 Share #184 Posted March 27, 2018 Well I don't expect he is counting on selling them by the container load. I expect his target are the new rich who cruise the mediterranean riviera and don't give a hoot about the environment and exploiting anyone "beneath" them. The kind of person who buys a Leica for his girl/boyfriends who in turn complains that it doesn't have a selfie stick or facebook. I would think his perfect buyer would look something like Matteo Perin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonescapes Posted March 27, 2018 Share #185 Posted March 27, 2018 If you watch the very end of the video, he starts rambling a little bit about 'lifestyle' as a kind of watchword for how upper-crusty people try to justify their tastes for 'nice' things as some kind of actual ethos or capacity for discernment. That's pretty much what this is about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted March 27, 2018 Share #186 Posted March 27, 2018 Well, I am not too familiar with Thorsten, I only watched a few of his Youtube videos in the past (unrelated to the bag stuff). So I don't want to judge him, but I don't think that this bag stuff is a good business idea the way he tries to sell it to the public. I can imagine that some high society guys might purchase them because it is "unique" (not in a good way unfortunately). But....IMO this is not well connected to Leica camera gear at all. In fact, it could be a counterproductive advertisement indirectly for Leica with Thorsten trying to venture into this new business direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 27, 2018 Share #187 Posted March 27, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've just posted a note to Dr Kaufmann on his Facebook page; Hi, many of us are outraged at Leica Ambassador Thorsten Overgaard's promotion of his range of Elephant and Crocodile skin camera bags for carrying Leica's. See the discussion on the forum here www.l-camera-forum.com/…/283052-luxury-camera-bags-by-thor…/ Is this endorsed by Leica? Hi James, thinking about it you have to be signed into the forum to see the bar section, so it’s likely he won’t be able to see the thread. He still see your Facebook post obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 27, 2018 Share #188 Posted March 27, 2018 Hi James, thinking about it you have to be signed into the forum to see the bar section, so it’s likely he won’t be able to see the thread. He still see your Facebook post obviously. He does have an account here as it happens (can't remember his forum name but it's something anonymous) but doesn't seem to visit often. Much more active on FB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 27, 2018 Share #189 Posted March 27, 2018 James, I just meant that the Facebook link might not work if he’s not signed into the forum on the same machine. If he is then there’s no problem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 27, 2018 Share #190 Posted March 27, 2018 I will ask Andreas if we can move this outside of the Bar so that Google can find it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 27, 2018 Share #191 Posted March 27, 2018 There’s a Daily Mail article about his wife, Joy Villa, that may help explain the target market. I’ll not post a link as it may get the post deleted, but let’s just say it’s an eye opener.Links to legitimate sites don’t get posts deleted. At worst the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 27, 2018 Share #192 Posted March 27, 2018 Jaap, I like your new avatar. Hope it doesn’t give Thorsten any ideas about an elephant ‘trunk’ as part of his obscene luggage line. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted March 27, 2018 Share #193 Posted March 27, 2018 He does have an account here as it happens (can't remember his forum name but it's something anonymous) but doesn't seem to visit often. Much more active on FB. He is a Member here. Posts as Overgaatd I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted March 27, 2018 Share #194 Posted March 27, 2018 He is a Member here. Posts as Overgaatd I believe. Correction; Overgaard. Edit won’t work for some reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 27, 2018 Share #195 Posted March 27, 2018 I think they were looking for Dr. Kaufmann. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 27, 2018 Share #196 Posted March 27, 2018 Correction; Overgaard. Indeed, he routinely posts to alert members regarding new articles on his site. Any future posts will provide a good opportunity to express our opinions directly. Hopefully this is resolved before then. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 27, 2018 Share #197 Posted March 27, 2018 I was referring to Dr Kaufmann. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted March 27, 2018 Share #198 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) I was referring to Dr Kaufmann. Sorry. Since Thorsten is a member here, shouldn't we send him a message to let him know how we feel? I suppose it's something we could each do individually, and/or a group message might help? Edited March 27, 2018 by Peter H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 27, 2018 Share #199 Posted March 27, 2018 Links to legitimate sites don’t get posts deleted. At worst the link. The article in question contains a lot of references to religion, right wing politics and online adult sites. I think a link would seriously derail this thread. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted March 27, 2018 Share #200 Posted March 27, 2018 The RFF thread on this same subject has been closed, apparently due to the ad hominem nature of some of the remarks there. It's doubly important therefore that we steer clear of those things and keep to the message that our qualm is with trading in elephant products. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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