carstenw Posted July 5, 2007 Share #101 Posted July 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) The GIF of Jana (my ex-girlfriend's daughter who I take care of two times a week) was created on a Mac, Andy It runs on a PowerMac G5 with MacOS X 10.4.10, in Safari 3.0.2. It might load and run through quickly before you scroll down, so try moving down to the image and then reloading the page, or alternatively, drag-n-dropping it to the desktop, and then dragging it onto your browser. What setup do you have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jonoslack Posted July 5, 2007 Share #102 Posted July 5, 2007 Thanks for your comment about my movie Jono. That is my first personally directed and acted movie . I thought it a masterpiece of post-modernist pertinance - Samuel Beckett would have been proud of you! Also thanks for your blog comments. It is hard to keep up, but very worthwhile. I sense the improvement in my photos and workflow already. Fully exercising the whole pipeline on a nearly daily basis makes a big difference. I just need to print more often now... I've been doing some printing tonight - a few big A2 prints - they drift around in my office/studio, and my wife takes the good ones and frames them (quite beautifully, and much better than they deserve). I'm having terrible work-flow anguish though, Aperture is much much better (IMHO) for workflow, and for big prints (you can, for instance, set up a preset for the Quad Tone Rip), but I like the processing in Lightroom (which produces nasty mushy prints over A3 for some reason). But I like the idea of a daily blog - my website grows in a lopsided kind of fashion (to the despair of the my ISP), but it's getting hard to negotiate, and the idea of a rebuild fills me with horror! Perhaps a daily blog would make it even more confusing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted July 5, 2007 Share #103 Posted July 5, 2007 The gif of your daughter (?) doesn't play on a Mac, btw. Hi Andy runs on my ageing macbook pro with Safari 2.0.4 okay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 5, 2007 Share #104 Posted July 5, 2007 You seem to know more than I do about printing. What do you have which does A2? I am considering adding an Epson 3800 at some point, but for now I use an R2400. Quite a nice printer, but ink-wise, a bit expensive. Jono, if you think carefully about your website, there is probably some way to correct the lopsidedness without a full redesign, which will allow you to add a blog. I would do it, simply because it is so helpful on a personal level. I wish everyone here had a daily photoblog link in their tagline/signature, because I love reading them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted July 5, 2007 Share #105 Posted July 5, 2007 You seem to know more than I do about printing. What do you have which does A2? I am considering adding an Epson 3800 at some point, but for now I use an R2400. Quite a nice printer, but ink-wise, a bit expensive. Hi Carsten I have an Epson 4000 - I got it for £650 new just when the 4800 came out - as I always print on matte or cotton rag paper, it works pretty well, mostly I use Epson Enhanced matte 17" roll paper (42cm). The ink comes in 250ml containers, so it's cheaper per ml. but still pretty expensive! Jono, if you think carefully about your website, there is probably some way to correct the lopsidedness without a full redesign, which will allow you to add a blog. I would do it, simply because it is so helpful on a personal level. I wish everyone here had a daily photoblog link in their tagline/signature, because I love reading them. I can easily add a blog (Oh Yes!), and of course I can tidy it up without a full redesign, but every time I start, I find that I need to do something else (like rodding the drains:) ) You have inspired me though - the blog sounds like fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 5, 2007 Share #106 Posted July 5, 2007 Somehow I don't think that most people post photographs on the Photo forum hoping they get no comments <grin> Definately Steve, why bother posting otherwise? I usually think 'what's wrong' if I post an image and get nil responses. Anyway the rest of us just have to accept that M8 ownership is something rather special and allows access to the 'members only' area that is the M8 forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 5, 2007 Share #107 Posted July 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) .............. so there are people who have the forum in mind and then there are the individials who want it their way only and try to impose their will. Not photos in the Photo forum really about ego and thet posting there is beneath their level of expertise,there isn't exactly a hub of fantastic photographers here to warrant that attitude. If people want their own "club"....... well form your own site it's pretty easy these days but there is no need to impose an individual's needs upon someone else's forum. No one us forcing anyone to participate and post here....................................... but there are some here, who will not be happy until it ts set up exactly how they want it and would censor comments that they don't like if they could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 5, 2007 Share #108 Posted July 5, 2007 The 4000. Hmm. That probably explains the RIP comment Apparently the x800 series don't really need RIPs for colours, but perhaps to save ink. Do add a blog, and perhaps organise your links into new pages with more focus. Just another level of hierarchy, which would allow a clean top-level page. The blog is a lot of fun, but also work, but in the end, I think it helps me grow very fast. When I am moving around too much, working unfocused, I see it in the blog. When I can deliver top images on a daily basis, I see it too. It requires dedication, but rewards you for it. To get back on topic, are there people here who would get upset if photo-threads were tolerated in the M8 forum, as long as they were prefixed with "Photo: "? As usual, imants sounds insightful, but I don't understand which side of the fence he is on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 5, 2007 Share #109 Posted July 5, 2007 The forum as a place for Leica photography should be of the main concern.................. individuals come and go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 5, 2007 Share #110 Posted July 5, 2007 This thread is really quite bizarre. The M8 seems to have polarised opinion in a way not seen before. Perhaps it was like this when the Leicaflex was introduced, and there were similar conflicts between the M and R users... but of course the interweb didn't exist then, so we had no way of communicating our views - mindless, insightful, banal, or brilliant - to the world at the touch of a button. Let's turn this the other way 'round for a moment... Let's introduce rules that only M8 owners can read or post in the M8 forum. Let's go the whole hog and ban M8 owners from the other parts of the forum. Let's make the photo forum only for postings by photographers who are good enough to have had their work displayed or sold. In fact let's just ban anyone from the whole forum who does not have a Leica... ...sound daft? Good. 1. Use Tags 2. It's only a camera Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 5, 2007 Share #111 Posted July 5, 2007 I understood that part, Imants. I didn't know whether you prefer the strict separation between photos and technical parts, or prefer allowing them to mix... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted July 5, 2007 Share #112 Posted July 5, 2007 The 4000. Hmm. That probably explains the RIP comment Apparently the x800 series don't really need RIPs for colours, but perhaps to save ink. I only use the RIP for black and white - but i do like the results, especially on photo-rag paper. The printer is a bit prone to metamerism on glossy paper, but for matte I think it's pretty much as good as anything. Do add a blog, and perhaps organise your links into new pages with more focus. Just another level of hierarchy, which would allow a clean top-level page. The blog is a lot of fun, but also work, but in the end, I think it helps me grow very fast. When I am moving around too much, working unfocused, I see it in the blog. When I can deliver top images on a daily basis, I see it too. It requires dedication, but rewards you for it. I'll certainly give it some serious consideration! To get back on topic, are there people here who would get upset if photo-threads were tolerated in the M8 forum, as long as they were prefixed with "Photo: "? As usual, imants sounds insightful, but I don't understand which side of the fence he is on LOL - well, imants does like to be enigmatic - powerfully enigmatic in this case! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest licht Posted July 5, 2007 Share #113 Posted July 5, 2007 I would like to see pictures which are better because of the M8, not only pictures to explain how to solve M8-Problems! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted July 5, 2007 Share #114 Posted July 5, 2007 Imants your missing the whole point being made and that is who gives anyone the right to comment on a image when there not asking , also what makes that comment have any value from someone else that maybe less experienced, not have the same knowledge , background, values or type of work etc etc. Example why would i listen to any critique you had to say or anyone else's . Not picking on you but you see my point, if a person does not ask than why make a comment on there work to begin with. Does that not seem impolite. It's like saying someones wife is trash or something of that nature, what does anyone here on this forum know or be better than anyone else. It's opinion when someone comments, not all of us want someones opinion. The M8 forum is about the M8 and the Photo forum is about getting opinions on your images. Those are the rules of this forum if i read them correctly or understand them correctly. i would never give a opinion unless i am asked for one. I personnally will never ask and many here will not also, they are not here for that. i could care less how they run this forum in there own way not asking anyone to change that but i think what many are asking for is if you want a opinion you will ask for it. that has NOTHING to do with the forum but EVERYTHING to do with being POLITE. Now if you can't do that than expect the worst from people , pretty damn simple. Hell imants i could open my own forum if i wanted things a certain way and frankly it be extremely successful at it but that is not what i want to do. Andreas has a nice place and i like to be a part of it but if i have to take someones shit than screw it , I will leave. Than it will be a forums loss of knowledge just like anyone else leaving for the same reasons. No one wants to be hammered daily on anything and the M8 forum is about everything M8 so IMHO that includes images but i have no issues of posting those images with technical background to go with it and that is what i personally do but artistic value means many things to many people and what different things they shoot. not everyone wants to be a HCB and shoot the world by the street code. sorry there are commercial shooters out there and wedding guys out there that shoot the M8 and other leica gear and really don't care what a street shooter or anyone else's field shoot. My opinion take it for the paper it is written on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest licht Posted July 5, 2007 Share #115 Posted July 5, 2007 No one wants to hammer anyone down, critic is a help for getting better, but if someone is perfect (or don´t want to get better) he doesn´t need critic. Most clients don´t know much much about photography so the assignment goes to the best talker, not to the best photographer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 5, 2007 Share #116 Posted July 5, 2007 A photo to illustrate a point is purposefull. A photo taken with a particular lens saying this is taken with a 24mm XXXXXX and here are another 20 is pretty useless. If one explains what has happened in the image with using that particular lens why not? The image should be used to back up the post directly Imants your missing the whole point being made and that is who gives anyone the right to comment on a image when there not asking.. once you place an image within a public based domain, you no longer contol what happens nor can you isolate it. No different to what happens to an image in a magazine in the end if a person posts crap,eventually someone will call it exactly for what it is worth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 5, 2007 Share #117 Posted July 5, 2007 Guy, without wanting to make a point of it in any kind of way, I am kinda agreeing with Imants (this one time only, I promise). If someone posts photos, I think comments are fair game. Of course, if you are posting Germany shots and Imants doesn't enjoy them, and says so, you are free to ignore him, but stopping people from posting their opinion would lead to a quite restrictive policy in general. In this particular case, I would point out that if there is a person whose comments you consistently do not enjoy, you should use the Ignore-list to deal with that, which lets everyone get on with their lives in a free kind of way. I have about 10 people on my ignore list at this point, and it keeps me happier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 5, 2007 Share #118 Posted July 5, 2007 Guy, trying to read your post gives me a headache. Paragraphs and punctuation please! Bill, are we to have two One Challenge's this year, M8 and non M8? I think its necessary! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 5, 2007 Share #119 Posted July 5, 2007 Robin says: Ohne Licht geht's nicht! I say: Aber doch! Mann braucht nur ein Noctilux! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 5, 2007 Share #120 Posted July 5, 2007 Bill, are we to have two One Challenge's this year, M8 and non M8? I think its necessary! Behave, I'm in charge this year. And I have powers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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