StevieB Posted February 3, 2018 Share #1 Posted February 3, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) My absolute favourite lens/camera combo for beautiful rendering is the M9 w/50mm Summilux asph, despite preferring a wider FL for most uses and auto focus. So I am considering the Q and will sell the M9 and 50 Lux to afford it. I am going to and fro in my mind about this decision. The Q,s fast AF and closer focusing are so tempting but IQ is paramount. My concern and question is, how different is the rendering of the M9 W/50 Lux compared to the Q? Many Thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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falcon468 Posted February 3, 2018 Share #2 Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) My absolute favourite lens/camera combo for beautiful rendering is the M9 w/50mm Summilux asph, despite preferring a wider FL for most uses and auto focus. So I am considering the Q and will sell the M9 and 50 Lux to afford it. I am going to and fro in my mind about this decision. The Q,s fast AF and closer focusing are so tempting but IQ is paramount. My concern and question is, how different is the rendering of the M9 W/50 Lux compared to the Q? Many Thx I can not directly answer your question as I do not have an M series with a 50mm. I will tell you this though, I started out with a Konica TC and a 50mm, and from that point went to an Olympus OM1 and then a Nikon FE, all using 50mm. Later, I acquired additional lenses and cameras. More recently, I purchased a Lumix M4/3 (GX1), with several prime lenses and traveled the world, on business and pleasure. I like to do travel photography, historic sites, old churches and landscapes. I do little creative work and would describe my photography style as "reportage." I soon found, that with the M4/3, 90% of the pictures were with the excellent little 28mm equivalent, despite also having a 40mm, 50mm and 90mm equivalent available. So when the Q came out, I decided one lens, one camera. And as I said in an earlier post, I have done this for almost a year, traveling to some fabulous venues in the process, and have never see the need for another lens. Again, I know that this does not directly answer your question on rendering, but I for one love the 28mm lens and its output. Thanks. Edited February 3, 2018 by falcon468 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted February 3, 2018 Falcon468, that's food for thought, Thank you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted February 3, 2018 Share #4 Posted February 3, 2018 Chalk and cheese comparison. Only you can decide. Have you got another camera with a 28mm lens? or an iphone? Use only that for a while and see if you miss having the m9/50 combo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted February 3, 2018 earleygallery. Thank you, I know and like the 28 fov very much. It's the beautiful IQ I am worried about losing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted February 3, 2018 Share #6 Posted February 3, 2018 earleygallery. Thank you, I know and like the 28 fov very much. It's the beautiful IQ I am worried about losing. If anything I'd expect the image quality of the Q to be 'better' as it's a newer sensor. If you mean the IQ of the lens then that's another matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beez Posted February 3, 2018 Share #7 Posted February 3, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have an M9 and several lenses - 21 Elmar asph, 35 Lux asph, 50 Chron asph - and a Q. I traded an M8 and another 21 Elmar asph for the Q. I love the M9, and kept it to use the interchangeable lenses. I can tell you there's no comparison between the M9's and the Q's IQ - the Q's is that much better, imho. While the CCD sensors on the M8 and M9 produce nice images, with what looks like film grain at higher ISO, they are/were both pretty useless over ISO 1600. Some would say the limit is 800. I'm a pro photojournalist and shoot only available light, and the Q is very usable at 3200 and 6400. Under some circumstances even 12800 looks pretty good. BTW, the lens on the Q is every bit a Leica Summilux in sharpness, contrast, and that special Leica look. If you're ok with the 28mm fov, don't worry about the IQ. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mctuomey Posted February 4, 2018 Share #8 Posted February 4, 2018 You’ll likely miss the 50 lux, it’s so good and a FL you say you like a lot. The Q is complementary to the 50 on an M body, not a replacement. Unless you see yourself adapting well to the 28 FL. The IQ of the 28 f/1.7 is a helluva incentive ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted February 4, 2018 Share #9 Posted February 4, 2018 One camera, one lens has a lot going for it, imo. The Q would be a great choice, from what I've read. ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted February 4, 2018 Share #10 Posted February 4, 2018 As much I love my Q, I'm not sure if I would not sell the M9 + 50 lux for it. Is there any way you could keep both? Or maybe pick up a 28mm Elmarit? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenge Posted February 4, 2018 Share #11 Posted February 4, 2018 Just received my Q last week and finding its rendering is special in terms of image quality, sharpness, out-of-focus roll-off, color reproduction (with or without Colorchecker Passport), contrast, and something else I can't put into words (you know it when you see it). Plus the lens is so good that up-sizing even the 50mm crop to ~12mpx produces very good A3 prints. I feel like I bought a great 28/1.7 lens with a terrific camera that's fun to shoot attached as a bonus (or vice versa). I've never used that 50 Lux but would guess based on what you described as your likes that you'd enjoy Q. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted February 4, 2018 As much I love my Q, I'm not sure if I would not sell the M9 + 50 lux for it. Is there any way you could keep both? Or maybe pick up a 28mm Elmarit? Thanks all. Yes Mr Q, I am leaning towards that decision. Thanks ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share #13 Posted February 4, 2018 Thanks all. Yes Mr Q, I am leaning towards that decision. Thanks ) ..and I just have to try the Q for myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flu Posted February 4, 2018 Share #14 Posted February 4, 2018 The Q's image quality is near unbeatable due to the fact that it's not an interchangeable system. Meaning, Leica have tuned the sensor and lens to work in perfect harmony. This sensor has only one job - and it's to make that specific 28 sing! It all comes down to whether or not you like the look of the Q files which are more modern, punchy, and edgy (SOOC) vs the M9's CCD. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jk1002 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #15 Posted February 4, 2018 The shooting experience is very different on the Q, I did start off with a Q and got M 262 in addition. I think youmight miss the M later down the line. I wouldn’t trade either of my Leicas. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share #16 Posted February 4, 2018 The Q's image quality is near unbeatable due to the fact that it's not an interchangeable system. Meaning, Leica have tuned the sensor and lens to work in perfect harmony. This sensor has only one job - and it's to make that specific 28 sing! It all comes down to whether or not you like the look of the Q files which are more modern, punchy, and edgy (SOOC) vs the M9's CCD. thanks, yes, I think that's exactly right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licheus Posted February 5, 2018 Share #17 Posted February 5, 2018 The Q is turning 3 this year. Better waited till Photokina. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlytyz Posted February 5, 2018 Share #18 Posted February 5, 2018 Hi I have had the Q for about 2 years now. I absolutely love it. The image quality and colour rendition is amazing, particularly in good light. However, I have supplemented it with the Fuji x pro 2 system (when I want more zoom) and more recently the Sony RX100 compact which I slip into my pocket for those few occasions when the Leica is too restricted. However, I find the Q is fine 75% of the time. I wouldn’t just rely on it though if you have a choice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogrog Posted February 5, 2018 Share #19 Posted February 5, 2018 My absolute favourite lens/camera combo for beautiful rendering is the M9 w/50mm Summilux asph, despite preferring a wider FL for most uses and auto focus. So I am considering the Q and will sell the M9 and 50 Lux to afford it. I am going to and fro in my mind about this decision. The Q,s fast AF and closer focusing are so tempting but IQ is paramount. My concern and question is, how different is the rendering of the M9 W/50 Lux compared to the Q? Many Thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share #20 Posted February 5, 2018 After much thought I am selling my beloved M9, keeping my 50 Lux asph, and getting the Q. I am happy with my decision. Thank you all for your help. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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