Ko.Fe. Posted January 29, 2018 Share #21  Posted January 29, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not having owned a zoom for years means that I know what I'm having for dinner tonight .  I never asking my wife about zooms or dinner tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 Hi Ko.Fe., Take a look here What's with the best focal length stuff?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
StevieB Posted January 29, 2018 Share #22  Posted January 29, 2018 I never asking my wife about zooms or dinner tonight.  Ditto me asking my partner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pope Posted January 29, 2018 Share #23 Â Posted January 29, 2018 I think, question like this are often comes from those, who came to M from systems with zooms. Including mobile phone users. Â You could be right. Â However, those coming from camera systems having used zooms can easily find out which focal lengths they use most often by checking the exif data of their files (assuming they are using digital). Â It's not rocket surgery. Â I sort of get why there are so many threads about differences between <insert focal length here> lenses, given that Leica lenses range in price from expensive to eye-watering and there is a risk of making an expensive mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 29, 2018 Share #24  Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) You could be right.  However, those coming from camera systems having used zooms can easily find out which focal lengths they use most often by checking the exif data of their files (assuming they are using digital).  It's not rocket surgery.  I sort of get why there are so many threads about differences between <insert focal length here> lenses, given that Leica lenses range in price from expensive to eye-watering and there is a risk of making an expensive mistake. Not that easy if you are in a habit of cropping or stitching (I do both).  The following two crops are from the same stitched photo using 28mm. This is why I like 28mm.  Wider than 28mm (21mm?) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! narrower than 50mm (60mm?) Edited January 29, 2018 by jmahto 13 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! narrower than 50mm (60mm?) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/281287-whats-with-the-best-focal-length-stuff/?do=findComment&comment=3450594'>More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted January 29, 2018 Share #25 Â Posted January 29, 2018 Yet you have read and responded to this one. Yep. Because I think it's plain rude and not the typical supportive nature of this group. Someone needed to stand up for the OPs of those threads. Â And I never complained about them, you did. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted January 29, 2018 Share #26 Â Posted January 29, 2018 The problem is by the end of the threads, between us we will have suggested just about every option possible so I'm not sure how it helps anyone make their own decisions. I agree when people respond only with a number, but when a reason is included I find them very valuable. It's nice to know how and why othe people approach the same subject. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share #27 Â Posted January 29, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think it's plain rude and not the typical supportive nature of this group. Someone needed to stand up for the OPs of those threads. Â Very well, Sheriff and Group Counselor. I'll be gone. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted January 29, 2018 Share #28 Â Posted January 29, 2018 It's nice to know how and why othe people approach the same subject. Â It can be but 'best' is very overused and all too often ill defined. It would be really useful if there was some form of guidance to posters which says that if you want to know what is a 'best' solution please specify under what circumstances. There is rarely a generic 'best' and too many threads seem to look for one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted January 29, 2018 Share #29  Posted January 29, 2018 Wow, I guess humility isn’t one of your strong points. Ever wondered what might happen if you just offered a bit of free advice, you know, for goodness sake...  What's with the best focal length stuff?  Who asks that? A total new-comer who knows nothing about the median from which to judge - a 50mm, or a totally disoriented consumer wishing to dive into photography wishing there were an advantaged focal length?  Let 'em work it their own.  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted January 30, 2018 Share #30 Â Posted January 30, 2018 I see @pico's reasoning and don't have a problem with it. A couple of people do. A forum is an open place for ideas. There are moderators if anything is unacceptable. Pico has neither been unacceptable nor unreasonable. He basically asked a question. How acceptable is it to consider that lacking humility? Â Can't anyone ask a question (an adult to adult transaction) without being humiliated themselves? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnySeven Posted January 30, 2018 Share #31 Â Posted January 30, 2018 What's with the best focal length stuff? Â Who asks that? A total new-comer who knows nothing about the median from which to judge - a 50mm, or a totally disoriented consumer wishing to dive into photography wishing there were an advantaged focal length? Â Let 'em work it their own. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 30, 2018 Share #32 Â Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Not a complicated matter. Â If the thread is of no interest, simply bypass it. No need to comment. No need to be dismissive or disparaging of someone's inquiry. Let those who choose to engage in the dialogue do so. Â "Total new comers" and "disoriented consumers" Â . . . why should they not be allowed to engage? (After all, was not everyone on this forum 'one of those' at some point?) Edited January 30, 2018 by ropo54 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 30, 2018 Share #33  Posted January 30, 2018 Let those who disparage also do so. The disparaged is baffled by some behaviour; it’s only polite to try to enlighten him/her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 30, 2018 Share #34  Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Let those who disparage also do so.  Why? Towards what end? Edited January 30, 2018 by ropo54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonescapes Posted January 30, 2018 Share #35 Â Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) If you measure 35mm film (or a full-frame sensor) from corner to corner, you wind up with about 43mm. A 43mm lens, right between 35 and 50, would give you the most natural possible perspective. If you've ever shot through a roughly 1x finder on a 43 or 42mm effective focal length lens, it can be quite a startling experience. Either you find it really liberating and natural, or you find it incredibly underwhelming that the camera isn't really 'doing much' with what you're looking at, at least in terms of perspective. Â Hence, neither 35 or 50 is quite 'there' and since we all know there's no accounting for taste, it's a perfect situation for producing disagreement. Edited January 30, 2018 by Lonescapes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted January 30, 2018 Share #36  Posted January 30, 2018 I, for one, do find the M-Rokkor 40mm F2 to be an absolute favorite for more than its small size. It has given me many wonderful shots as my daily carry. I’ve become used to how it frames outside the 50mm lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 30, 2018 Share #37  Posted January 30, 2018 Why? Towards what end?  Free speech is the most valuable asset in hominid society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 30, 2018 Share #38 Â Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Free speech is the most valuable asset in hominid society. Â Sure, one can speak freely. Â I simply question the necessity to do so for the purpose of rhetorically denigrating another. Â Â Why does one need to get on the soapbox for that? Edited January 30, 2018 by ropo54 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 30, 2018 Share #39 Â Posted January 30, 2018 A grumpy old man gets irritated by a question. A questioner gets offended by having his post denigrated. It's kinda balanced. There are worse hells. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 30, 2018 Share #40  Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Yes, I suppose you are correct;  the grumpy old man needs to 'get a life'.    Leave the poster alone to ask his questions and seek his knowledge, I say.  A grumpy old man gets irritated by a question. A questioner gets offended by having his post denigrated. It's kinda balanced. There are worse hells. Edited January 30, 2018 by ropo54 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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