Tomek Posted January 21, 2018 Share #1 Posted January 21, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) That is a little bit dummies like question but I am thinking about that two days and still not sure. I have both: NOCTILUX-M 1:0,95/50mm ASPH and SUMMICRON-M 1:2/50. Some differences are obvious e.g. speed. But which one in your opinion is better choice considering travel to a city with plans on street photography? Beside 50mm I going to take my SUMMILUX-M 1:1,4/28 mm ASPH. Cheers, Tomek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted January 21, 2018 Share #2 Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) I would take my Summilux-M 50mm or maybe Summarit-M 50 (my prefered now) if I need some compact/light 50mm. Noctilux 50 is heavy and block 1/4 of the VF. Summicron may be your choice, to pair with Lux 28mm but you are the only one to answer. Which M do you use ? With Visoflex 020 on M10, I'd take Noctilux for very low light (depend of where ...) and it would be the only one . M10 at 50 kISO + Noctilux = everywhere nake eye can't see with OVF ! Edited January 21, 2018 by a.noctilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted January 21, 2018 Which M do you use ? M10 and you are right. I will take small one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetee1972 Posted January 21, 2018 Share #4 Posted January 21, 2018 That is a little bit dummies like question but I am thinking about that two days and still not sure. I have both: NOCTILUX-M 1:0,95/50mm ASPH and SUMMICRON-M 1:2/50. Some differences are obvious e.g. speed. But which one in your opinion is better choice considering travel to a city with plans on street photography? Beside 50mm I going to take my SUMMILUX-M 1:1,4/28 mm ASPH. Cheers, Tomek A Noctilux is pointless for street photography so I guess take your 50mm summicron 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5 Posted January 21, 2018 OP, I think, deserves two piece of advice. Rather than asking either or lens question real unasked question is which camera bag? If you still struggle with dilemma between two lenses with different max F speed try to figure out which maximum f stop is sufficient to achieve your photographic objectives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 21, 2018 Share #6 Posted January 21, 2018 All other things being equal, including endurance to lugging the weight, it depends on how quickly & reliably you can you focus @ ƒ/0.95 vs ƒ/2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted January 21, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) A Noctilux is pointless for street photography so I guess take your 50mm summicronThat is a little bit my thinking but I don’t have any experiences with noctilux as it is very new lens for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 21, 2018 Share #8 Posted January 21, 2018 A Noctilux is pointless for street photography so I guess take your 50mm summicron "Pointless" is a bit strong. With experience and perhaps an EVF, it has its place for a particular effect. See Messr. von Overgard's lovely work with it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted January 21, 2018 Share #9 Posted January 21, 2018 Speed is rarely an issue. But if you like taking pictures with shallow depth of field, then take the Noctilux! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted January 21, 2018 Share #10 Posted January 21, 2018 What happens when it gets dark...? You shoot w/nocti..or get an A7s... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted January 21, 2018 "Pointless" is a bit strong. With experience and perhaps an EVF, it has its place for a particular effect. See Messr. von Overgard's lovely work with it.Why EVF? Because of it’s size and influence on possibility to view full frame? Thorsten is rather against it. I saw his noctilux pictures and they are great. But fist 20 my shots show that this isn’t easy lens. But portraits it is doing beautiful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted January 21, 2018 What happens when it gets dark...? You shoot w/nocti..or get an A7s...Increase ISO [emoji3] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 21, 2018 Share #13 Posted January 21, 2018 Why EVF? Because of it’s size and influence on possibility to view full frame? Thorsten is rather against it. I saw his noctilux pictures and they are great. But fist 20 my shots show that this isn’t easy lens. But portraits it is doing beautiful Watch some videos of him and he’s got the EVF on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetee1972 Posted January 21, 2018 Share #14 Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) "Pointless" is a bit strong. With experience and perhaps an EVF, it has its place for a particular effect. See Messr. von Overgard's lovely work with it. f/0.95 may have a place but 'street photography' isn't it. You're never going to focus that critically fast enough to make use of the apeture for street photography. OK so maybe if you taken hundreds of crappy frames one might turn out OK but that kind of 'spray and pray' approach is amateur at best. To be honest, I've still not figured out what place f/0.95 has anywhere let alone in street photography. About the best conclusion I can reach of the Noctilux is if you're more interested in the out of focus areas of a frame than the in focus ones. It's an odd aesthetic to my mind; it's a saccharine coated cliche that for some reason seems so beloved of Leica shooters (of which I am one). Almost without exception whenever I shoot my 50mm Summilux wide open, I wish I'd stopped down more and so now, I never shoot below f/2 and rarely below f/2.8 and this is for portraiture. Regarding Thorsten Overgard, yes I am familiar with him. He seems like a nice guy and his videos are relaxing in an odd kind of way but I don't rate his work even remotely. It's not bad per se, it's just not that interesting and I certainly don't think he's any more talented than most of the average people I follow on Instagram. What happens when it gets dark...? You shoot w/nocti..or get an A7s... You put your camera away and drink wine and discuss important and interesting things like metaphysics, psychology, politics, economics etc. Photography is 'painting with light'; it's kind of hard to do that when it's dark. Edited January 21, 2018 by geetee1972 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted January 21, 2018 Share #15 Posted January 21, 2018 That is a little bit dummies like question but I am thinking about that two days and still not sure. I have both: NOCTILUX-M 1:0,95/50mm ASPH and SUMMICRON-M 1:2/50. Some differences are obvious e.g. speed. But which one in your opinion is better choice considering travel to a city with plans on street photography? Beside 50mm I going to take my SUMMILUX-M 1:1,4/28 mm ASPH.Cheers,Tomek Hi Tomek! We have a very similar approach having a minimalistic combo on travel. If I really need to travel very restrictive I'd have the Lux 28 and a 50 with me. In most cases I prefer the Nocti 50. The reason is the variety of options. With this combo I have the wide angle, the 50 and in addition to that an amazing lens for all light conditions and many portrait opportunities. Not everyone might like this for street photography but I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted January 21, 2018 Share #16 Posted January 21, 2018 I’m traveling right now with a lux 28, 50 apo, and 90 apo. I’ve used the 28 for 95% of shots, the 90 for 4%, and the 50 for 1%. I wholeheartedly recommend the 28 lux for travel photography. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted January 21, 2018 Share #17 Posted January 21, 2018 Just a few examples which I wouldn't have done that way without my Noctilux. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/281064-travel-noctilux-vs-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3445345'>More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted January 21, 2018 Share #18 Posted January 21, 2018 I would opt for the cron in regards street photography in particular for several reasons: 1. the noct is big and attracts more attention, the cron is diminutive. 2. the notional advantage of the cron, namely a fourfold light gathering ability is obviated by the fact that you are doing street photography. Even if you were doing night street photography, a higher ISO readily compensates. 3. the minuscule DOF at f/0.95 makes street photography a challenge. 4. the noct is heavy. 5. the noct is not very versatile. I suspect you catch my drift... Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-A-C Posted January 21, 2018 Share #19 Posted January 21, 2018 Summilux 1.4 ASPH is my favorite travel 50. You can't go wrong with any of your options, but I would go with the cron. Size and weight... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 21, 2018 Share #20 Posted January 21, 2018 You all assume that the aperture must remain stuck at f/0.95 all the times. While it might be unwieldy, it can “see” when the world is dark to the likes of a Summicron. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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