tashley Posted June 30, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 30, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I 'upgraded' then tried to run the 'new' version and got the message: "catalogname.lrdb" appears to be corrupt and cannot be used click here, blah blah blah. In short I am screwed. There is some issue around the database and I do not have a recent enough backup to be of enough use. The tech help page basically says, run it using the backup. They have to be kidding, right? Tim :-( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest stnami Posted June 30, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 30, 2007 .......... the same old tired story, no backup........... copped a problem with one out of twenty odd catalogues.................... had backed them up monthly atleast though, so those yet to upgrade, backup and upgrade......some nice changes in LR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eudemian Posted July 1, 2007 Share #3 Posted July 1, 2007 Try it again Tim, I had a similar error message but I rebooted and tried and voila, after an age I was back to normal, The new version is better so it is worth persevering. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted July 1, 2007 Try it again Tim, I had a similar error message but I rebooted and tried and voila, after an age I was back to normal, The new version is better so it is worth persevering. Tom Thanks Tom but I have tried every trick in the book... of course, I back up all my images very often but as for the Lightroom library database itself, not often enough... well that makes it my fault I guess. I have tried to delete 1.1 and revert to 1.0 from the installation CD but you can't do that. I have re-booted, re-installed, installed using another library (fine) but my main library file is now officially corrupt and will not upgrade to the new 1.1 format or open in any way. And guess who hasn't been saving XMP his sidecars. On the one hand I 'had it coming' because I sort of thought that upgrading would not screw my library. But on the other hand, the main reason I had for not trying Aperture has now disappeared. Many, many, many hours of work gone. I am not happy... but I now know that I will never trust Lightroom again. Not a great silver lining but 1% better than nothing at all. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
like_no_other Posted July 1, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 1, 2007 I just started trying out lightroom, new version. It's a very nice software that delivers good colours and a lot of useful functions. Does it save all information/data concerning folders an selections into one database? The concept is unclear for me because I found a lot of subfolders created by lightroom. Do I have to make the back-up manually including all lightroom created folders or is there a lightrom function for back-up of everything hidden somewhere? Help is much appreciated. Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted July 1, 2007 Share #6 Posted July 1, 2007 Tim, I'm not trying to be insensitive to your dilemma, but for the benefit of others, the install instructions clearly state to do a database backup with an integrity check. Your thread title may be overstating things. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 1, 2007 Share #7 Posted July 1, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) try searching the net guys it helps and also not that difficult to do( if you can't..ask your kids ), heaps around if you try and look eg LightroomNews » General menus Adobe Lightroom O'Reilly Digital Media Blog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
like_no_other Posted July 1, 2007 Share #8 Posted July 1, 2007 Thanks a lot for he link. It's a good source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted July 1, 2007 Share #9 Posted July 1, 2007 To back up LR catalog: File > Catalog Settings > General. Choose Back up setting. I think the first time you do this there is a checkbox to perform an integrity check. When you restart LR it will do the backup. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidomo Posted July 1, 2007 Share #10 Posted July 1, 2007 Tim, I have tried to delete 1.1 and revert to 1.0 from the installation CD but you can't do that. I found the following in the readme that comes with the 1.1 update: Once Lightroom 1.1 has been installed on a Mac, the Lightroom 1.0 installer will not replace Lightroom 1.1 without further user intervention. (To install Lightroom 1.0, delete the file /Library/Receipts/Adobe\ Photoshop\ Lightroom.pkg and /Applications/Adobe Lightroom.app. Then reinstall Lightroom 1.0.) Perhaps that helps getting you back to 1.0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 1, 2007 Share #11 Posted July 1, 2007 Tim, I know that Adobe's help desk can be of variable quality but you have little to lose. If you get the right person, they might agree for you to send them the corrupt library, depending upon how big it is, on some sort of removable medium. They may have a recovery tool. It will almost certainly not be the library contents that are corrupt but some sort of index. Roll on Leopard with automatic back-up. This has given me the nudge. It is at least two weeks since I ran back-ups. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted July 1, 2007 Share #12 Posted July 1, 2007 Tim - it's not a big issue. Step 1/ Open LR 1.1 and create a new Catalogue in an appropriate folder and on an appropriate hard drive... Step 2/ Go to File > Import from Catalogue. This ALLOWS you to bring in v.1.0 Libraries and makes the necessary conversions. It also backs up your old one to ensure that you don't lose data. Step 3/ Get on with business N.B. it's really helpful to select the option under Preferences "Default Catalogue - When starting up use this catalog: Prompt me when starting Lightroom" - that way you can choose specific catalogs for e.g. different hard drives. Although the process is slightly counter intuitive (maybe better on Macs? I'm on Win XP) it's painless - and the features in 1.1 (especially this business of being able to import from catalogs and sync catalogs) is really worth the effort. Hope this helps - pm me if you have more problems. Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodda Posted July 1, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 1, 2007 I got the same message. Just closed and double clicked in explorere my originnal file and it woeked, I think it creats a bsckup and the new data base it tries to createvhas a diff extension. I ignore this and use the old one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodda Posted July 1, 2007 Share #14 Posted July 1, 2007 i find sync function very slow. I usually simply click the old import. PS sync still does not fix Meta data conflicts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 1, 2007 Share #15 Posted July 1, 2007 .. a direct podcast, takes a little bit to load...http://cache.libsyn.com/cspodcast/Lightroom11NewFeatures.mp4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 1, 2007 Share #16 Posted July 1, 2007 I just had to start Lightroom twice and everything is running swimingly. Don't forget, if it's a database corruption that's the issue, it won't have affected your original files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share #17 Posted July 1, 2007 Tim - it's not a big issue. Step 1/ Open LR 1.1 and create a new Catalogue in an appropriate folder and on an appropriate hard drive... Step 2/ Go to File > Import from Catalogue. This ALLOWS you to bring in v.1.0 Libraries and makes the necessary conversions. It also backs up your old one to ensure that you don't lose data. Step 3/ Get on with business N.B. it's really helpful to select the option under Preferences "Default Catalogue - When starting up use this catalog: Prompt me when starting Lightroom" - that way you can choose specific catalogs for e.g. different hard drives. Although the process is slightly counter intuitive (maybe better on Macs? I'm on Win XP) it's painless - and the features in 1.1 (especially this business of being able to import from catalogs and sync catalogs) is really worth the effort. Hope this helps - pm me if you have more problems. Best Hi Chris and thanks for the tip. I created a new (empty) catalogue then tried File>Import from Catalogue but then, on pointing it at the old .lrdb file, I got the message Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! When trying to use 'Open Catalog' in response, I get the original message To slightly defend my own honour, I have LR on my Macbook and my G5 and whilst my 'long run archive' lives on and is backed up from the G5 I do have quite a large working library on the Macbook. I backed that one up first then upgraded and it was a doddle - and I like the new features. Thinking that was all was smooth I then went for the G5 upgrade a a few days later and having had such a smooth upgrade on the Macbook I forgot to read the readme and therefore forgot to do a backup. Now clearly this makes it my fault, along with the fact that I don't have a recent enough backup for the library database BUT it still seems far too easy for that database to get corrupted. Why does the upgrade not back it up automatically? Why is there no tool to fix it or at least extract as much info as possible? My head hurts! Tim Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! When trying to use 'Open Catalog' in response, I get the original message To slightly defend my own honour, I have LR on my Macbook and my G5 and whilst my 'long run archive' lives on and is backed up from the G5 I do have quite a large working library on the Macbook. I backed that one up first then upgraded and it was a doddle - and I like the new features. Thinking that was all was smooth I then went for the G5 upgrade a a few days later and having had such a smooth upgrade on the Macbook I forgot to read the readme and therefore forgot to do a backup. Now clearly this makes it my fault, along with the fact that I don't have a recent enough backup for the library database BUT it still seems far too easy for that database to get corrupted. Why does the upgrade not back it up automatically? Why is there no tool to fix it or at least extract as much info as possible? My head hurts! Tim ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/27901-lightroom-darkroom-dont-upgrade/?do=findComment&comment=294955'>More sharing options...
mreddington Posted July 1, 2007 Share #18 Posted July 1, 2007 Tim, I might be suffering from hallucinations but I am pretty sure the installation routine (at least on XP) automatically backed up my 1.0 database before converting it. Someone else might be able to confirm or contradict this but it might be worth looking around on your HD. I do have a backup in my (non-default) backup folder on the day I upgraded but since I had already done one myself so it might be that. EDIT: No, I didn't hallucinate. There is another backup in the default folder with a slightly later date that the one in my normal backup folder. In XP this is in My Documents\My Pictures\Lightroom\Backups. Try looking for the equivalent folder in the Mac. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share #19 Posted July 1, 2007 Tim, I might be suffering from hallucinations but I am pretty sure the installation routine (at least on XP) automatically backed up my 1.0 database before converting it. Someone else might be able to confirm or contradict this but it might be worth looking around on your HD. I do have a backup in my (non-default) backup folder on the day I upgraded but since I had already done one myself so it might be that. Martin What's is odd is that if I try all this again 'from the top' it does say that it will make a backup in the backups folder - but there isn't one there. I suspect what happens is, it checks the integrity of the database and then if it is good, it makes a backup and then upgrades it. Therefore there's no backup if the integrity check fails. I was about to roll back using Guidomo's suggestion above but I thought I would try one stupidly simple idea and it seems (touch wood) to have worked to some extent: I just created a new empty catalogue, and used Import Photos to import my entire 9,000 photo library. Weirdly, even though I have not been keeping XMP sidecars, a lot of the ratings and crops and processing seem to have been preserved - but not all and I have yet to work out what has survived... I will report back! Best Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted July 1, 2007 Share #20 Posted July 1, 2007 Hi Tim Sorry to hear about this - nasty stuff - I hope it all pans out okay and you get back what you had before. A lesson to all of us not to ignore that backup message :-( (I'm currently backing up my Aperture library as we speak!). Good Luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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