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Cancelled my SL Order - did I do the right thing?

Flyer

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Donzo98

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I sod almost all my Nikon stuff... and don't regret it for one second. It really depends on what you shoot though. If you need long glass, and shoot action, hang on to the DSLR a little longer.

 

The first Leica I bought was the Q. Fell in love with it. I thought I would try it... and not like the fixed lens thing... but I love it.

 

Next... I bought the SL and 24-90. Yeah... The 24-90 is big, but you think the Canon or Nikon 24-70 isn't?? A pro body and 24-70 is bigger than the SL and 24-90. I have NEVER been a MF guy... but as other's have said here, It is SO EASY on the SL. Personally, I have no interest in the M10 or any other RF camera. The EVF on the SL is awesome.

 

I added the Noctilux... and now have a Voitlander 15mm F4.5 III on the way.

 

So, I have the SL 24-90, 90-280 and two primes. I use the 24-90 as an everyday lens. The Noct is awesome, and is used for artsy shots. The 90-280 is used when I need the range, which honestly isn't too often. The 15 will be used for special occasions.

 

After all is said and done... I sold a ton of Nikon stuff... and completely switched systems. The SL is crazy expensive for sure, but this is the first time I have truly been satisfied with my gear.

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Lazytiger

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Coming from Nikon. Bought an M 240 and a couple of lenses as an addition. Never was happy with focussing a rangefinder. Then I replaced my Nikon and my M with the SL. Couldn't be happier.

 

That said, IF I would NOT need my camera professionally, I'd go for a TL2. Or maybe wait for the upcoming "CL" later this year (APSC with build-in EVF, Codename "Clooney", there is a thread in the T-subforum). T-Lenses are much cheaper, premium quality and AF. You can use all M-Lenses and all SL-Lenses. And very few people can tell the difference between an SL and a TL2 sensor, except for that one stop of additional DoF maybe.

 

Unfortunately clients and agencies think APSC isn't "pro", so I cannot show up with one for a job. But, hey!, look at the facts:  a) superb image quality (if you don't believe me, look at what Thorsten Overgaard writes), b ) much smaller and lighter than SL, c) less than half the price and d) still a real Leica. What is there more to wish for?

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The 24-90 is big, but you think the Canon or Nikon 24-70 isn't?? A pro body and 24-70 is bigger than the SL and 24-90...

A 5DIV and a 24-70 isn't bigger than an SL and 24-90. The cameras are a similar size, but the Canon 24-70 f2.8 is significantly smaller/lighter than the 24-90 and the 24-70 f4 is barely half the weight of the Leica lens.

 

My advice to the original poster is that if you want a compact mirrorless camera get an M, a Sony or an m43 camera.

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Donzo98

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A 5DIV and a 24-70 isn't bigger than an SL and 24-90. The cameras are a similar size, but the Canon 24-70 f2.8 is significantly smaller/lighter than the 24-90 and the 24-70 f4 is barely half the weight of the Leica lens.

 

My advice to the original poster is that if you want a compact mirrorless camera get an M, a Sony or an m43 camera.

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I said a Pro Body... like the D5 or Canon equivalent. Also the Nikon 24-70 F2.8 VR is actually longer physically than the 24-90.

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almoore

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I said a Pro Body...

So did I.

 

The 5D in its various forms is the most widely used and versatile professional camera there is. It's also explicitly recognized by Canon as a professional body via the CPS service. D5s and 1Ds are primarily high frame rate sports cameras.

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That's a bit rich coming from you Neil!!

True though. I'm down sizing all my stuff and just going to concentrate on my golf game and travel photography.............

 

Neil

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To Flyer, 

 

If you have doubts - stick to the doubts and don't buy the SL. 

 

Also don't buy any of the M cameras - if you express unease with manual focus, the M is not only purely manual focus but also a rangefinder and view is not through the lens. Takes getting used to. 

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My M- and R-lenses stay on the SL most of the time (24-90 I use mostly because of the weather sealing). Manual is a dream with the crisp EVF, and if you want high quality glass at moderate prices, just buy some R-lenses.

 

...after I got my first modern Leica (M2) I used a 35 Cron for about 90 percent of my photography for 15 years :)...Now I have more lenses, but I'm not sure I'm taking better photos ;)...

 

//Johan

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To Flyer, 

 

If you have doubts - stick to the doubts and don't buy the SL. 

 

Also don't buy any of the M cameras - if you express unease with manual focus, the M is not only purely manual focus but also a rangefinder and view is not through the lens. Takes getting used to.

 

The OP liked the X-pro. That is a lot closer to an M than to the SL.
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geetee1972

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The OP liked the X-pro. That is a lot closer to an M than to the SL.

That's an interesting comment. I would have said the reverse. The X-Pro is the same shape as the M for sure but in terms of functionality it's much closer to the SL.

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Flyer

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Thanks to everyone for taking the time to give advise.

 

Like all forums everyone means well and it's certainly helps but the side effect is further confusion!

 

However I think from all the advise I need to do the following;

 

1. Clearly understand what my photographic priorities are as I have been used to shooting almost anything but when I look in lightroom 63% of my images are landscape or city.

 

2. Be honest with myself about the lust of a camera, the SL is like a Maserati but no point in buying one and putting bog standard tyres on it.

 

3. Understand what my budget limitations are and play within them.

 

4. Clearly understand the lens options native, R/M and see what fits

 

5. Never been a manual focus person but I had one lens on a Sony A7r MKII that I enjoyed using but I usually switched back to auto. So can I make the switch

 

I am going to play with the SL today so it may answer some of the questions.

 

 

Well again thanks for your advise.

 

Flyer

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steppenw0lf

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I started with an SL and a few old R lenses (and M lenses). And was so happy to use manual focus again (with the better control - especially for macro - through the EVF). And REALLY happy to use my "old" macro lens again.

Did I ever feel buyers remorse ? Of course, but just for a few hours after ordering (look at the price), but not anymore after holding and using the camera.

Would I ever feel guilty because of manual focusing ?    What nonsense.

In the meantime I also use a lot of AF and with more AF lenses getting  available will do so even more.  (18 months user).

 

Would I recommend the SL to another photographer ?  Counter question: Which car would I recommend to another driver ? Would I recommend my car ?  I know my car is perfect for me - so I drive it already since many years. But why should I care if it is ok for somebody else ? How could I know ? Why should this user care ?

As with my car, I do not want to miss my SL.   (As my car is very flexible, so is my SL, much more so than any other of my cameras.)

And like I love some of the metal in my car, I like some of the robustness of the SL (it oozes quality).

 

 

Manual focus with the SL is a feature, while with my other modern cameras it is mainly a non-feature (a pain ?).

If you are specializing in areas where "manual" lenses are common, you will see no reason to feel guilty. (e.g. architecture with tilt-shift lenses, macro photography, even in filming/video AF is not always desirable - see also the professional cinema lenses that can be attached).

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Fang

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That's a bit rich coming from you Neil!! 

 

 

Good decision. Stick with your Nikon

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 Neil got out from the wrong side of bed again.

 

I am still waiting for him to get out of the wrong side of bed again and he decides to sell off his Noctilux cheap (like he did for the other M lens.)  Blame it on his Scottish decent especially those guys from Dundee 

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