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The trip to Leica SEM 21mm from Zeiss Biogon 21mm f2.8


ibramr

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Greetings All. Please evaluate your experience in acquiring the Leica SEM after using the Zeiss Biogon f2.8. Would you recommend such a move based on improved results and better handling characteristics?

 

My current use of the Zeiss is limited as I find the results often uninspiring and lifeless. Of course, I refuse to think that the paucity of my technical skills is the real cause, and think that maybe the solution is in the SEM. I have enjoyed this focal length much more in the film days (Elmarit), and hope to rekindle the old interest in this focal length. Please share your thoughts. Thank you.

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Both the SEM and ZM lenses will give you very similar (and excellent!) results. Slowish 21mm lenses are largely known for being clinically sharp and differences in rendering (bokeh) between the two lenses are going to be small, particularly once the lenses are stopped down a little.

 

For something very different to the ZM you probably need to look at a summilux or Ultron 21mm. However, whether these would be "better" depends on what you are trying to produce.

 

Maybe it is the focal length that is the problem?

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Do you have a lot of photographs taken with wide angle lenses, which you like and just this one fails to deliver? I had to learn to use them, let alone master them. Maybe you try to take typical WA architecture shots in attractive lighting (blue hour) just to start somewhere.

I am not convinced the differences in rendering are that material between the two lenses in question.

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Greetings All.  Thank you very much for your comments and advice -- much appreciated.  I decided to go ahead and acquire the LEICA SEM 21.  Definitely a markedly better handling experience vis-à-vis that of the Zeiss Biogon 21mm f2.8, and more homogenous results with other LEICA lenses I have.  The only drawback, however, is that now, all mistakes are mine, and mine alone--no ifs, or buts.  I will keep on trying to improve.  Thank you once more.  Regards.

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You made the right move. I sold my 21 Biogon several years ago and replaced it with a 21 SEM. While the Biogon produced outstanding results it unfortunately suffered from mechanical problems. The near focus was off and it was noisy. After repairs at Zeiss Germany, it was free of the grinding noise but the focus was then slightly soft at infinity. The SEM on the other hand has been a delight to use. It is sharp, mechanically perfect and close to distortion free. Color wise, the Biogon had a bit more pop, that is to say it was warmer and slightly more contrasty.

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I have no experience with the Leica lens, but do have a Zeiss 2.8 21mm with me. I really can not see any bad with it. Is really the leica better? You mind sharing why you consider your results not to your liking, maybe you can share some examples, maybe your version is not okay.

 

I thought about changing mine for the leica as well, but mainly because of it been leica :) but at the ended decided to get another lens and keep my zeiss.

 

Some examples with it, maybe its of any help :)

 

24440315220_b1abe7f908_b.jpgL1001789 by Alejandro Ilukewitsch, on Flickr

 

22494178621_45f97c1dc5_b.jpgUntitled by Alejandro Ilukewitsch, on Flickr

 

17076519907_d921f50960_b.jpgL1008494 by Alejandro Ilukewitsch, on Flickr

 

22469744036_e6c5426c87_b.jpgUntitled by Alejandro Ilukewitsch, on Flickr

 

15513326080_a94da15c92_b.jpgL1005906 by Alejandro Ilukewitsch, on Flickr

 

15371022685_9956436507_b.jpgL1005188 by Alejandro Ilukewitsch, on Flickr

 

23157190704_1544b20e69_b.jpgUntitled by Alejandro Ilukewitsch, on Flickr

 

15141668047_3703124441_b.jpgL1005158 by Alejandro Ilukewitsch, on Flickr

 

 

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thanks, i love the 21mm, is a beautiful lens, thats why i am surprised with the post. Maybe its a bad copy.

Malabito, Lovely shots, and thank you for sharing. I would have liked to agree with you, but I think it is more related to the ergonomics of the lens and to my limitation than to the Zeiss glass per se. I do have very nice shots to document the trip from the Elmarit f2.8 (E60), to the Zeiss, including, already, a few with the SEM. I promise to report on this experience here shortly. Zeiss 21mm f2.8 Biogon is a competent lens, but it is not for me. Regards. Edited by ibramr
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