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I held an M10... it didn't feel any smaller?


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It's all personal preference at the end of the day but I still feel the main improvement is the higher ISO capability... if you need it.

 

 

There are many improvements...its a significant upgrade from the M240 imo.

Speed difference is night and day, higher iso is more useful than you think, simplified menu structure, better rear LCD, significantly improved EVF, smaller size, mechanical ISO dial (at first it seems like a gimmick, after a few days it becomes your best friend), moveable focus aid, improved OVF, loss of the damn continuous mode on power switch...im sure I've missed a few others. Did I mention better colors and WB?

 

This is the first digital M that doesn't slow down or stop while shooting...its worth the upgrade for this alone, but IMO its the best M yet. I don't miss the M240 at all.

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Apparently, the M10 is much smaller than previous M cameras but I couldn't tell the difference from the M9/240? The marketing seems to be all about this so I expected a super thin camera at the least, but it must be negligible. IMO, they should be concentrating on marketing the new sensor instead of the dimensions.

Certainly felt substantially smaller and better ergonomically to me, regardless of what dimension you use...

 

 

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There are many improvements...its a significant upgrade from the M240 imo.

Speed difference is night and day, higher iso is more useful than you think, simplified menu structure, better rear LCD, significantly improved EVF, smaller size, mechanical ISO dial (at first it seems like a gimmick, after a few days it becomes your best friend), moveable focus aid, improved OVF, loss of the damn continuous mode on power switch...im sure I've missed a few others. Did I mention better colors and WB?

 

This is the first digital M that doesn't slow down or stop while shooting...its worth the upgrade for this alone, but IMO its the best M yet. I don't miss the M240 at all.

There are no absolutes here - it all comes down to which improvements affect the way you shoot yourself.

I don't normally use the EVF, so its improvements are peripheral for most of what I do. I never used continuous mode, but then I never accidentally switched it on either.

I agree that "it's the best M yet", though for me not better enough to move to yet.

 

I'm curious by "speed difference is night and day"; what do you mean by that?

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There are no absolutes here - it all comes down to which improvements affect the way you shoot yourself.

I don't normally use the EVF, so its improvements are peripheral for most of what I do. I never used continuous mode, but then I never accidentally switched it on either.

I agree that "it's the best M yet", though for me not better enough to move to yet.

 

I'm curious by "speed difference is night and day"; what do you mean by that?

 

Just saw your street shots with the 3.5 21 on flickr. Nice work. 

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I am very happy that so many people are buying the M10.

 

My M8 was my main camera from 2008-14.

 

My M-P 240 from 2015-2022 (expected)

 

Those great people that upgrade every couple of years and buy every new wide-angle summilux are financing Leica's development and my future enjoyment. Thank you. (and there is no sarcasm here, it is really great)

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I'm curious by "speed difference is night and day"; what do you mean by that?

From the M240 I guess that's an overstatement...but I've always been vocal about the previous M's and the fact that the buffer fills up too quickly. On the M9 the camera simply stopped working until the buffer cleared. With the M240 it slowed to a snails pace. IMO a camera produced in our generation should never stop recording an image or even slow down during moderate use and this is the first digital M that accomplishes this. So for me the speed difference is night and day. I've lost more moments because my buffer was full than I can count, and this should never happen.

 

But as you point out it's all relative. Some or even most may find no value in these things. Personally I do and the upgrade is significant. It's as if Leica heard every one of my complaints from my previous M's and addressed them all.

 

BTW- I rarely use the EVF, maybe 10% tops. But when I do the EVF upgrade is priceless vs the M240

 

 

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Apparently, the M10 is much smaller than previous M cameras but I couldn't tell the difference from the M9/240? The marketing seems to be all about this so I expected a super thin camera at the least, but it must be negligible. IMO, they should be concentrating on marketing the new sensor instead of the dimensions.

 

Your hands sound like they are out of alignment. 

 

Send them to Wetzlar for adjustment. 

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Your hands sound like they are out of alignment. 

 

Send them to Wetzlar for adjustment. 

Actually it is not that bad.... The left hand can be aligned easily with a 2lb hammer. But if it is right hand then it is not that easy and needs to be sent to Wetzlar.

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