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Sir Stirling Moss in a factory 300SLR at Brooklands on Sunday. Still driving with straight arms. This shot was taken about 50 yards from the car at 90mm with Digilux 2 and this is the center section of the image.

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Now there is a true RACING driver, he has still got more racing skills than todays band of F1 jockeys put together.

 

Lovely shot, whish I had been there

 

 

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Tony -

 

Thank you for posting this. Sir Stirling is one of my two all-time favorite drivers (Dan Gurney being the other), and you have him in one of the most important post-war cars. Wonderful. Please forgive me, but I so like the subject and image that I've adjusted its exposure and sharpness a bit:

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Stuart - I tried that but thought I lost a bit of the car's colour. Yours is better I think. The trouble is I have blown it up so much. The car was doing about 60mph at the time.

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Top bloke.

 

As a motor racing D2 shooter this image intrigues me; why can we see so much of the front of the car when this is apparently a side-on shot? The whole car seems to be somehow distorted. Perhaps Ron and Allan could venture an opinion?

 

Anyway Tony, it's a moment in time captured. Glad you grabbed it and thanks for sharing. :)

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Just a bit off topic but relevant: I had the chance to have tea with Tony Brooks recently. He is a great and gracious gentleman, a great raconteur, and someone who, I am glad to say, has had a great life before and after racing.

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John - He had a garage at Weybridge and I had one in Wallington, both in Surrey. My name is spelt with an 'e' and I quite often received his mail and he mine. One letter from Italy was simply addressed Tony Brooks England, but it reached him via my garage.

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At least the people in the Post Office know their car stuff, Tony! Must be an easy mistake to make, especially if you both had garages in the same area.

 

So long as you received all his cheques too... ;)

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For it seems like a photo-montage.

The nose can´t be like that at all from that point of shooting. the little dark ellipse over the right frontlight (in driving-direction) could be in reality the one (being added by PS ? ) much too far in front, like the whole nose of the car.

 

In terms of perspective, this image could never have been made with one single shot like that.

Or did he have a crash some minutes before? ;):D

 

Don´t like people posting montages and pretending that would be authentic material...

 

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For it seems like a photo-montage.

The nose can´t be like that at all from that point of shooting. the little dark ellipse over the right frontlight (in driving-direction) could be in reality the one (being added by PS ? ) much too far in front, like the whole nose of the car.

 

In terms of perspective, this image could never have been made with one single shot like that.

Or did he have a crash some minutes before? ;):D

 

Don´t like people posting montages and pretending that would be authentic material...

 

Dirk

 

That's the question I posed earlier; I don't think this is a montage, more some sort of distortion caused by the speed and direction of the car around the photographer and maybe the shutter speed. I would have expected, from this viewpoint one headlight to be directly behind the other. I don't understand it. :)

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For me (here is the missing "me" in the former posting ;) ) it just can´t be a distortion at all.

Because if that would be the case, you might see ONE deformed frontlight right.

But you see ONE exactly in place as it has to be ( --> the ellipse in corect perspective position) and ONE MORE in a perspective you will never see - the same with the nose, the part of the very front.

 

And when you look very exact at it, you will see also a little discontinuity of the carosserie-part just at the position where the front was cut and after it added some stuff - but not exactly enough not to realize the manipulation.

 

Third problem: The wheels are exactly the same! The rear wheel has one point without information, just in the middle of the axis and pointing to vertical position.

 

For me, this is nothing than photo-montage work, done not carefully enough at all.

If you take this for authentic, I will show you my "shot of the year" , a shoot of the pope driving a Tank in the woods of the vatican with a wonderful naked girl on his side... ;)

 

Might be clearer if we could see the whole shot.

 

You can't see any of the rear of the car, so I think maybe it's Sir S's posture that is making things look odd.

 

Andy,

do you know lenses, that go around a car for at least 30 degrees like a bow from a position about 20 m from the car? If yes, I will make the proposition to the Nobel Price comitee to give the honour of a price to the research team who develloped this... ; it´s physics, man...

 

If Einstein is still correct with his theory rewarded with the Nobel Price, this would be only the case, if the mass of the honourful Sir and the nice woman just besides plus the car should be as much as 1 million suns... I have some doubts..;)

 

 

Just my 2 cents (in Euro) .

 

regards

 

Dirk

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Near the right head beam there is the air intake for the engine.

 

The nose and the silver of the body irritates the viewer and the camera. The acrylic beam cover of the left side is overexposed so the real lines anre not there and trick the eye.

Here another shot with a similar effect but not so strong:

 

The right front side looks as to be in front...:D

 

Bernd

 

PS Who knows the phrase of Jenkins correct: "Look at the fellow in the Dellow, not the chap in the trap...

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Andy,

do you know lenses, that go around a car for at least 30 degrees like a bow from a position about 20 m from the car? If yes, I will make the proposition to the Nobel Price comitee to give the honour of a price to the research team who develloped this... ; it´s physics, man...

 

My £10 offer still stands. What possible motivation could someone have to do a photomontage of a car doing 60mph with the most famous driver in the world in it?

 

That theory just doesn't make sense.

 

You are not looking at the car side on, you are looking at it from maybe 15 or 20 degrees. You can see the windscreen, the front of the car and the face of the faux-air-intake.

 

Where's Anthony?

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Well...

 

first: Thanks to Bernd Banken, the foto he presents shows indeed a similar effect, but much more less. And the visibble little distortion in the last photo was (if not cropped) at the very edge of the photo, in the first, it is relatively near the center. There, distortion like that is VERY rare, never saw it personally.... well bernds other comments seem to be very logic also, indeed . hmmm... should I have been wrong? I really don´t know at al...

I still just can´t believe that this very, very important kind and degree of distortion near the center (!) of a photo is possible with nowadays lenses. Not even with a R 15mm... the which he surely not used at all.

And the phenomenon of "taking a picture of the front and the side at the same moment" like in the first picture - well , it cannot exist, can it?

On the other hand - the air-intake seems indeed to be that what I called the frontlight in correct position.

 

For me, it is still not possible to do a picture like that with one single shot - but - Well - If I have to apologize, then I will do it.

 

Perhaps I should already prepare for it. :D

 

@ Andy

will try to save my 10 English pounds... :D

 

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