Go Figure Posted February 26, 2018 Share #61 Posted February 26, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pico, deleting images from your SD card might just be wrong thing to do after all. personally I think that chimping over your M8/9 while pictures are written to the card ( red light blinking ) is the worst offense 1. DO NOT erase images from your memory card in your camera! Clarification: What I mean by this is: Do not go through your photos and delete them one by one using your camera. I see people (including professional photographers) doing this all the time and it is a REALLY bad idea. Your camera is awesome at taking photos, but it is not very smart at managing the data on your memory card. Deleting individual images from the card using your camera is a great way to scramble the FAT Table. DON’T DO IT! And heck, memory cards have gotten so inexpensive and large, that you should not have to delete images to save space. Just pop in a new card and keep shooting. Once you have downloaded to your computer, and backed up the images THEN format your card to use it again. https://www.diyphotography.net/not-delete-images-memory-card-using-camera/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ianman Posted June 9, 2018 Share #62 Posted June 9, 2018 I would like to get a good stock of cards before they become impossible to get. My question is, when you talk about the speed, do you mean the data write speed? or the read speed? The read speed is usually at least twice as fast so I guess that is the nominal speed written on the card label. For exemple, the "SanDisk SDHC Extreme 16GB 90MB/s Class 10" has a read speed of 90MB/s but a write speed of 40MB/s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 9, 2018 Share #63 Posted June 9, 2018 I would like to get a good stock of cards before they become impossible to get. I don't think they will go away for a long time, but you have aroused my curiosity - what would replace them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 9, 2018 Share #64 Posted June 9, 2018 I don't think they will go away for a long time, but you have aroused my curiosity - what would replace them? I mean "slow" SD cards that are compatible with the M9. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
designdog Posted June 18, 2018 Share #65 Posted June 18, 2018 Hello. Leica M10 user here, who just bought a low mileage M9 to compliment. New sensor 3/20/2018. I see here, and elsewhere, about the issues re SD cards and this camera. My question is, with the latest firmware (1.216) and the latest updates (Rev 4+5) is this still an issue? Also: when you do the firmware update, does it "include" all past updates? That is, if the camera is on version 3, and your update is version 6, does version 6 also contain the updated fixes on versions 4 and 5? Appreciate any help. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 18, 2018 Share #66 Posted June 18, 2018 Yes. Any current firmware includes changes from previous editions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 18, 2018 Share #67 Posted June 18, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) My question is, with the latest firmware (1.216) and the latest updates (Rev 4+5) ... What do you mean by "the latest updates (Rev 4+5)" ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raid Amin Posted June 19, 2018 Share #68 Posted June 19, 2018 Pico, deleting images from your SD card might just be wrong thing to do after all. personally I think that chimping over your M8/9 while pictures are written to the card ( red light blinking ) is the worst offense 1. DO NOT erase images from your memory card in your camera! Clarification: What I mean by this is: Do not go through your photos and delete them one by one using your camera. I see people (including professional photographers) doing this all the time and it is a REALLY bad idea. Your camera is awesome at taking photos, but it is not very smart at managing the data on your memory card. Deleting individual images from the card using your camera is a great way to scramble the FAT Table. DON’T DO IT! And heck, memory cards have gotten so inexpensive and large, that you should not have to delete images to save space. Just pop in a new card and keep shooting. Once you have downloaded to your computer, and backed up the images THEN format your card to use it again. https://www.diyphotography.net/not-delete-images-memory-card-using-camera/ Yes, this is what I have been doing. I download all image files from the cards to my computer, followed by formatting the cards inside the camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
designdog Posted June 19, 2018 Share #69 Posted June 19, 2018 What do you mean by "the latest updates (Rev 4+5)" ??? That was simply an example to explain my question... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted June 19, 2018 Share #70 Posted June 19, 2018 I would like to get a good stock of cards before they become impossible to get. My question is, when you talk about the speed, do you mean the data write speed? or the read speed? The read speed is usually at least twice as fast so I guess that is the nominal speed written on the card label. For exemple, the "SanDisk SDHC Extreme 16GB 90MB/s Class 10" has a read speed of 90MB/s but a write speed of 40MB/s. The Sandisk 45MB/s cards work well in the M9 and that camera dosn't need anything faster. In fact there is some history of problems with faster cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
designdog Posted June 19, 2018 Share #71 Posted June 19, 2018 The Sandisk 45MB/s cards work well in the M9 and that camera dosn't need anything faster. In fact there is some history of problems with faster cards. Per my question above, is this experience with the latest firmware and sensor replacement, or is it based upon older information...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted June 19, 2018 Share #72 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Per my question above, is this experience with the latest firmware and sensor replacement, or is it based upon older information...? I don't think the sensor or the firmware updates will impact on the fundamentals of the M9's processor performance which is the key element in relation to card compatibility . Edited June 19, 2018 by pedaes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 19, 2018 Share #73 Posted June 19, 2018 The Sandisk 45MB/s cards work well in the M9 and that camera dosn't need anything faster. In fact there is some history of problems with faster cards. My question was about what that speed is. Is the 45MB/s the write speed of the card? Or the read speed? The read speed is often (if not always) much faster (about 2x) than the write speed and this is what the manufacturers write on the front of the card. So if the M9s preferred write speed is 45MB/s, an SD card with 90MB/s written in the front should be ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted June 20, 2018 Share #74 Posted June 20, 2018 My question was about what that speed is. Is the 45MB/s the write speed of the card? Or the read speed? The read speed is often (if not always) much faster (about 2x) than the write speed and this is what the manufacturers write on the front of the card. So if the M9s preferred write speed is 45MB/s, an SD card with 90MB/s written in the front should be ok. Personally, I don't know answer. Back in the day when this was a big issue, the outcome was established that cards designated 45MB/s were fast enough and caused no issues. I think this was based on what speed was on the card. There is obviously quite a bit of latitude in reality and cards rated 90 are probably fine, and the message may have been 'don't use fast cards' (that is fast in 2011). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
designdog Posted June 20, 2018 Share #75 Posted June 20, 2018 I will do this. Since I have cards all over the map, including some very large, very fast ones, I will start with the largest/fastest and see if it works, when my M9 arrives. I will post the results here. I would prefer to be able to use the largest/fastest cards, as that is what I am using on my M10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandA Posted June 20, 2018 Share #76 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) I have been using the M9 since the week it was 1st introduced. Use of fast read/write cards are all over the map whether they have issues or not and combined with this is the particular brand of card. Some have had issues and some not and random issues sometimes show up immediately and some after a given card is in use for some time. Just sticking in a fast large card might work for days or weeks and all of a sudden images that should have been wrtten to cards are gone or hangups occur with camera. The near universal good performance has been with 8 or 16gb cards of moderate speed as noted by others. It isn't much of an issue to carry a bunch of those for your M9 and larger faster cards for your M10. Thats what I would do in order to eliminate all the vaiables to problematic card related issues with the M9. Just think of this. Some may go 100 mph down a certain road that has a 45mph speed limit and claim they never get a speeding ticket. Therefore does that mean no one else doing the same won't? The percentages are that they will in time and thus the same has happened (issues) to those using 64gb and/or larger & fast cards with a M9. Just my own thoughts. Dave (D&A) Edited June 20, 2018 by DandA 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted June 20, 2018 Share #77 Posted June 20, 2018 I will do this. Since I have cards all over the map, including some very large, very fast ones, I will start with the largest/fastest and see if it works, when my M9 arrives. I will post the results here. I would prefer to be able to use the largest/fastest cards, as that is what I am using on my M10. It's called "Reinventing the wheel". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 20, 2018 Share #78 Posted June 20, 2018 In my modest experience, it is unrealistic to expect an M9 to write to an SD Card faster than 15mb/s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
designdog Posted June 21, 2018 Share #79 Posted June 21, 2018 It's called "Reinventing the wheel". Respectfully disagree. I have a "new to me" M9 that has just had a new CCD installed, etc. Also have a month old M10. I want to use them both, in the same kit. I don't want to have to seek out old SD cards - I have plenty of new ones - if they are not required. Nor do I want to have a separate group of cards for each camera. Since no one here has answered my original equation, I will answer it myself, by actual experience. And, I will report back here in hopes of helping others who acquire M9s, upgrade their CCDs,, update their firmware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted June 21, 2018 Share #80 Posted June 21, 2018 Respectfully disagree. I have a "new to me" M9 that has just had a new CCD installed, etc. Also have a month old M10. I want to use them both, in the same kit. I don't want to have to seek out old SD cards - I have plenty of new ones - if they are not required. Nor do I want to have a separate group of cards for each camera. Since no one here has answered my original equation, I will answer it myself, by actual experience. And, I will report back here in hopes of helping others who acquire M9s, upgrade their CCDs,, update their firmware. The 'upgrading' of the sensor was all about the cover glass. I think most of us keep our firmware up to date, and the last FW release was only to include two new lenses. Like you I have M10 and M9, and they are chalk and cheese electronically and offer quite different photographic experiences. I still love the M9, but it is what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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