RvN Posted November 23, 2017 Share #41 Posted November 23, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for the comments, feedback and different views. Even the first very silly one amused me, and the others opened my mind to some other Rs. Nick HI Nick, Looked at your blog and am interested in a pure mechanical slr like R6. Could you please comment on the shutter lag feel of the R6 compared to the FM3a you also have. I am looking to get into R glass next to my M but if that would come with a certain Shutterlag i would steer away and maybe use the R glas + Leitax on a Nikon body like Fm/fm2/fm3a. Hope some users can help get a perspective on this as I am about to purchase a R6(.2) based on all that is right about it. Is the the R6 also laggy compared to M6/Fm2/FM3a or is that R6 camera's that are serviced properly can keep up with the shutter speed/reaction time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted November 23, 2017 Share #42 Posted November 23, 2017 Shutter lag, more or less with my Leica R since Leicaflex SL the quickest in this response. Have a look here, https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/leica-r6-slr-slight-lag-in-shutter-normal-or-not.81960/ On our two R6 (my wife use one also), the shutter lags are not the same: mine about 1/10s and her's about 1/8s. At one time, long ago, I tested to compensate the laggy (because we use M and R along), Leica M about 20ms, and R6 about 100ms. Comparing to Nikon FM2, this is faster SLR for action, almost no lag. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted November 23, 2017 Share #43 Posted November 23, 2017 Yes, the FM2 has probably less shutter lag, then the Leica R cameras. I did put some shutter lag times - ex Photo Revue 1985 - down. And the Nikon FE2 had only 60ms shutter lag, while the R4 had a delay of 160ms. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277573-re-shutter-release-delay/ Come's close to the values of the R6, a.Noctilux mentioned. Personally I haven't had an issue with the delay of the Leica's +- 120ms, thats fine for me ... (if it get's too bad, than the problem is a sticky mirror damper....) Torsten Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvN Posted November 23, 2017 Share #44 Posted November 23, 2017 Yes, the FM2 has probably less shutter lag, then the Leica R cameras. I did put some shutter lag times - ex Photo Revue 1985 - down. And the Nikon FE2 had only 60ms shutter lag, while the R4 had a delay of 160ms. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277573-re-shutter-release-delay/ Come's close to the values of the R6, a.Noctilux mentioned. Personally I haven't had an issue with the delay of the Leica's +- 120ms, thats fine for me ... (if it get's too bad, than the problem is a sticky mirror damper....) Torsten Thanx Thorsten and a.Noctilux, to be clear: Does the R6 come close to the values of R4 or FE2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 23, 2017 Share #45 Posted November 23, 2017 Thanx Thorsten and a.Noctilux, to be clear: Does the R6 come close to the values of R4 or FE2? I think (mostly sure) that it's delay depend on the particular R6. As said about 80ms to 125ms for different R6. To complement R6, I have R-E that is almost same delay. That's good for me, with time I learned to anticipate the R's delay in use. When I need "less delay" I just use my M system (or for SLR, I have also Canon EOS RT, real time not quite 15ms in RT mode). Learn to "know well" the tool in use is something not replicated by somebody else experience. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McGarrett Posted November 23, 2017 Share #46 Posted November 23, 2017 I've always been fond of R6.2... R6 too, but I always felt R6.2 it's a bit better built than R6s. Maybe just a feeling. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted November 26, 2017 Share #47 Posted November 26, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) This has been an extremely useful thread to follow and digest during the year..............all helping towards delivery of my own R6.2 on Friday! I look forward to getting some film through it. Richard 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentShutter Posted November 26, 2017 Share #48 Posted November 26, 2017 I think (mostly sure) that it's delay depend on the particular R6. As said about 80ms to 125ms for different R6. To complement R6, I have R-E that is almost same delay. That's good for me, with time I learned to anticipate the R's delay in use. When I need "less delay" I just use my M system (or for SLR, I have also Canon EOS RT, real time not quite 15ms in RT mode). Learn to "know well" the tool in use is something not replicated by somebody else experience. The shutter lag is the most overrated thing I ever heard of in photography. Why make such a fuzz about it ? If your pictures are bad it´s not about some ms the camera was to slow I guess right ? If we compare analog cameras and systems keep your hands away from Canon and compare Leica with Contax maybe the RTS ? My first pick would be the amazing RTS III then with all the Zeiss glas for example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McGarrett Posted November 26, 2017 Share #49 Posted November 26, 2017 The shutter lag is the most overrated thing I ever heard of in photography. Why make such a fuzz about it ? If your pictures are bad it´s not about some ms the camera was to slow I guess right ? If we compare analog cameras and systems keep your hands away from Canon and compare Leica with Contax maybe the RTS ? My first pick would be the amazing RTS III then with all the Zeiss glas for example. If you're lucky enough to find one still working properly... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBestSLIsALeicaflex Posted November 26, 2017 Share #50 Posted November 26, 2017 Having used a Leica R6/6.2, R7 and all the Leicaflex models over the past ten years, and coming from rangefinders, I'll give the tag of "the best" to the Leicaflex SL. Principally for its' big, bold and beautiful viewfinder -- very dramatic -- but also for its' low shutter vibration. I never used an R8/R9, but played with one in a store when it was in production. Very ergonomic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted November 26, 2017 Share #51 Posted November 26, 2017 The best SLR is the Nikon FM3a, with electronic and fully mechanical shutter speeds. Leica's best SLR is the R9 in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeray Posted November 26, 2017 Share #52 Posted November 26, 2017 The shutter lag is the most overrated thing I ever heard of in photography. Why make such a fuzz about it ? If your pictures are bad it´s not about some ms the camera was to slow I guess right ? If we compare analog cameras and systems keep your hands away from Canon and compare Leica with Contax maybe the RTS ? My first pick would be the amazing RTS III then with all the Zeiss glas for example. Agree on the Contax system. For me the best SLR. Contax RX Kit 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joop van Heijgen Posted November 26, 2017 Share #53 Posted November 26, 2017 Having used a Leica R6/6.2, R7 and all the Leicaflex models over the past ten years, and coming from rangefinders, I'll give the tag of "the best" to the Leicaflex SL. Principally for its' big, bold and beautiful viewfinder -- very dramatic -- but also for its' low shutter vibration. I never used an R8/R9, but played with one in a store when it was in production. Very ergonomic. I have the same cameras. Indeed the Leicaflex SL is in quality way the best (mechanical) SLR camera but in two years three of my Leicaflexes had a broken shutter (shutterbands). The only real technical problem of the Leicaflex that cannot be repaired. But you can buy another one because they are cheap to purchase and giving some service is quite possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted November 12, 2018 Share #54 Posted November 12, 2018 I know this is an old thread but I just need to close my own loop. Just a few postings further up this page 12 months ago I enthused about the anticipated arrival of my own R6.2, but sadly circumstances have not allowed me to exploit that gem fully. The whole transfer back to film has been an interesting challenge after 15 years digital, and of the just 4 films I have been able to put through my R6.2 results have been perfect. I still believe that film surpasses digital in quality but one has to be practical. It is now that sad time to say goodbye to my film friend and rely on my other little gem - Leica C . I am sure Ffordes will track down another enthusiast to enjoy this excellent camera for several years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted November 13, 2018 Share #55 Posted November 13, 2018 On 1/30/2017 at 7:28 PM, ramarren said: I never worked with the R3 to 7 cameras... it was only relatively recently I bought my teenage fantasy ... a black Leicaflex SL... followed by an R8. Both excellent bodies, and the lenses are wonderful. The lenses are most of what I've been using on the modern SL. Well, the R8 is long gone and I still have the Leicaflex SL: It is still my favorite. But I acquired an R6.2 recently and I'm delighted by it. The R6.2 is small, light, has the features that 25 years of incremental development wrought in basic mechanical cameras, and has an equivalently excellent viewfinder and a large array of accessories. It's very nice to carry and shoot with, and works with all my lenses (all three-cam R lenses, but for the Summicron-R 50 and Macro-Elmar-R 100 that I use on the Leica Focusing Bellows-R) beautifully. Very happy with it! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapages Posted December 8, 2018 Share #56 Posted December 8, 2018 On 11/26/2017 at 4:17 PM, Reeray said: Agree on the Contax system. For me the best SLR. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Contax RX Kit Nice. Also added a Contax AX plus Zeiss Planar 50/1.4 to my kit just for the fun of it. Great system. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted December 8, 2018 Share #57 Posted December 8, 2018 I had the good fortune of owning, at various times, a Leica SL, SL2, R3 and R8. The SL2 was my favorite, but the range of features on the R8 was awe inspiring. Of course the Leica lenses on any of them was the topping on the cake. Then I tried a Contax RX with Zeiss glass and it was an eye-opener. I loved the dreaminess of Leica glass, whether on film or digital (I used it on a Leitaxed Sigma SD14). But I likewise loved the sharpness and contrast of the Zeiss glass in certain instances. I never paid attention to shutter lag on any models, as I no longer shoot sporting events, sports car racing, or other split second situations, but when I did, any noticeable shutter lag in my cameras was usually compensated for by myself, knowing my camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBestSLIsALeicaflex Posted December 10, 2018 Share #58 Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) On 11/26/2017 at 1:54 PM, Joop van Heijgen said: I have the same cameras. Indeed the Leicaflex SL is in quality way the best (mechanical) SLR camera but in two years three of my Leicaflexes had a broken shutter (shutterbands). The only real technical problem of the Leicaflex that cannot be repaired. But you can buy another one because they are cheap to purchase and giving some service is quite possible. One of our Leicaflex SL just had a catastrophic shutter failure, and now I wonder if it's a broken shutter band. I like these cameras but I've had some issues with them over the years. All the cameras received an expensive CLA before use, but one camera had the plastic viewfinder break and fall out after 450 rolls, another developed shutter bounce after 48 rolls or so, another one had the match/needle fail after 90 rolls, and then the above mentioned shutter failure after only 15 rolls. Hmm, that seems like more then the ordinary about of issues. All this stuff has driven me to shoot some Nikons (OMG!!!), in addition to the Leicas. Edited December 10, 2018 by TheBestSLIsALeicaflex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstock Posted January 2, 2019 Share #59 Posted January 2, 2019 I use the R6.2 and an R7, both of which have unique characteristics that I like. The R6.2 is is solid, built like a tank. The R7 feels different, is it the weight, or whatever. Both are excellent performers with no complaint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveclem Posted January 7, 2019 Share #60 Posted January 7, 2019 If anyone is interested in a, silver R6. 2 I'll put an advert up. No pm offers as I want to keep it above board and support the forum. Boxed, vgc and ill throw in the drive and grip if wanted. If this is flouting forum etiquette please accept my apologies and remove if necessary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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