Peter H Posted January 21, 2017 Share #21 Posted January 21, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Okay okay - if you are shooting the camera as a rangefinder, without the EVF, and shooting at a reasonable rate, then you can get 600 shots - if you use live view and the EVF - have sleep mode set to off and shoot occasionally you might only get 100 shots. Good news is that the battery indicator is excellent and the warnings sensible, and it keeps on shooting reliably until the battery is dead. . . You need to be prepared - but it's not a big deal Thanks for that Jono. But it can be a big deal since you could easily need to buy a bundle of new batteries in order to be prepared if you don't always use the camera in the most efficient way possible. I called it an expensive nuisance and it does feel like that to me from the way you describe it, even if there are more important things to think about! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stealth3kpl Posted January 21, 2017 Share #22 Posted January 21, 2017 Just tried the new M10 today in Frankfurt at minus 2 degrees... around 550 shots and playing around a lot with the settings... Result: 65% battery left. Shouldn't your username be OMG? I can't imagine shooting 550 frames a day! Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 21, 2017 Share #23 Posted January 21, 2017 Thanks for that Jono. But it can be a big deal since you could easily need to buy a bundle of new batteries in order to be prepared if you don't always use the camera in the most efficient way possible. I called it an expensive nuisance and it does feel like that to me from the way you describe it, even if there are more important things to think about! TBH it doesn't sound enormously different from the M240 to me, but given the number of variables I suspect you'd have to use both to tell if there was a noticeable difference for the way you work. Two batteries have always been necessary and sufficient for me for both the M240 and SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverover Posted January 22, 2017 Share #24 Posted January 22, 2017 However, compared to the $195 cost for the M 240/262 battery (B&H prices), a spare M10 battery costs $95 (B&H web site). I see the M10 battery listed at b&h below at (US) $175.00. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1312554-REG/leica_24003_bp_scl5_lithium_ion_battery_pack.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 22, 2017 Share #25 Posted January 22, 2017 With M240 used as only RF and no chimping, auto sleep, I get above 800 pics per battery. With M9 it was considerably less (I remember something like 400). M10 seems to be something in between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distagon Posted January 22, 2017 Share #26 Posted January 22, 2017 However, compared to the $195 cost for the M 240/262 battery (B&H prices), a spare M10 battery costs $95 (B&H web site). I see the M10 battery listed at b&h below at (US) $175.00. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1312554-REG/leica_24003_bp_scl5_lithium_ion_battery_pack.html Makes one wonder whether USD$95 is a wholesale price (accidentally published) and USD$175 retail, with the higher mark-up on accessories.Pure speculation, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 22, 2017 Share #27 Posted January 22, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Makes one wonder whether USD$95 is a wholesale price (accidentally published) and USD$175 retail, with the higher mark-up on accessories. Pure speculation, though. Well, buying three spares won't be cheap that's for sure. Someone I know asked me last week if I knew anyone who could repair her camera. The shutter was stuck open. It was a three or four year old Canon p&s and I looked it up online. It's new price was about the same as one of these batteries. She felt it was a great shame that a camera as "new as this" and "a good one too" couldn't be used anymore. It made me think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 22, 2017 Share #28 Posted January 22, 2017 Well, buying three spares won't be cheap that's for sure. Someone I know asked me last week if I knew anyone who could repair her camera. The shutter was stuck open. It was a three or four year old Canon p&s and I looked it up online. It's new price was about the same as one of these batteries. She felt it was a great shame that a camera as "new as this" and "a good one too" couldn't be used anymore. It made me think. Yes, we Leica shooters take these high prices for granted... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverover Posted January 22, 2017 Share #29 Posted January 22, 2017 Makes one wonder whether USD$95 is a wholesale price (accidentally published) and USD$175 retail, with the higher mark-up on accessories. Pure speculation, though. I looked at the battery yesterday for the 1st time as am ordering an M10. If anyone saw a lower published price previously, it was likely a pre-release pricing error by the store, and Leica prices do seem to "jump" randomly as in the case of the TL 23mm lens i had in my shopping cart for a few days at B & H. The day i added to my cart, it was $1395, 2 days later went to pay and it had jumped to $1850, this was 2 weeks ago, right after Jan 1 rolled around. I was able to get the original lower price but had to move quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverover Posted January 22, 2017 Share #30 Posted January 22, 2017 ...additionally, the Leica Q battery, which seems to be of a very similar spec and type as the new M10 costs $95.00 at B & H. I am very happy with my Leica products and have drunk the kool-aid, however, it does seem that there is an air of price "gouging" where and when they feel their marketplace can tolerate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distagon Posted January 22, 2017 Share #31 Posted January 22, 2017 Yes, we Leica shooters take these high prices for granted... Indeed.The latest battery for the Canon 5D IV, using similar technology and probably a similar manufacturer, costs USD$65 for the branded battery and USD$35 for the generic. Now, the M10's battery will not enjoy anything like the economies of scale of the Canon, but that alone can't explain the 170% higher price. Some large part of that must be thanks to printing the "L-word" on the product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tappan Posted January 23, 2017 Share #32 Posted January 23, 2017 Does anyone know how the battery life compares to an M9?Thanks you, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Brigade Posted January 23, 2017 Share #33 Posted January 23, 2017 ...additionally, the Leica Q battery, which seems to be of a very similar spec and type as the new M10 costs $95.00 at B & H. I am very happy with my Leica products and have drunk the kool-aid, however, it does seem that there is an air of price "gouging" where and when they feel their marketplace can tolerate it. The Q's $95 battery, made in China by the Japanese firm Panasonic, is the same battery as the battery made to fit Panasonic Lumix (and Leica D-Lux) cameras at half that price. Wasabi sells their generic battery for around $20 each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireboy Posted January 28, 2017 Share #34 Posted January 28, 2017 Turn off LV and turn off preview. You'll get a 1000 shots from a single battery charge. My first charge just hit 0%. Had over 1000 shots. No live view and no chimping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 28, 2017 Share #35 Posted January 28, 2017 Turn off LV and turn off preview. You'll get a 1000 shots from a single battery charge. My first charge just hit 0%. Had over 1000 shots. No live view and no chimping. There see...nothing to complain about, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenrikP Posted January 28, 2017 Share #36 Posted January 28, 2017 Much less than waiting for film to develop and then looking through prints/loupe for finding keepers. less is more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 28, 2017 Share #37 Posted January 28, 2017 Turn off LV and turn off preview. You'll get a 1000 shots from a single battery charge. My first charge just hit 0%. Had over 1000 shots. No live view and no chimping. That's impressive. On par or better than M240. However I would like to see other's report as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookedart Posted January 29, 2017 Share #38 Posted January 29, 2017 That's impressive. On par or better than M240. However I would like to see other's report as well. There is no way that the m10's battery is on par with the m240's. And impossible that it would be better. The battery capacity is 1800mah (m240) vs 1100mah (m10). I'm getting around 300-500 shots with the same behaviour I would get easily 500-1000 shots on an m240. I'm sure it might be possible to get more but you'd have to be really battery conservative in a way you wouldn't have to on an m240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 29, 2017 Share #39 Posted January 29, 2017 I'd like to see Fireboy's experience replicated. I have no reason to disbelieve him, but would like to see others experience as well...no chimping, review off for a fully formed battery. There is no way that the m10's battery is on par with the m240's. And impossible that it would be better. The battery capacity is 1800mah (m240) vs 1100mah (m10)..... Possibly the new M10 has much lower electrical draw, and so the camera gets more images on a lesser battery...unlikely, but possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookedart Posted January 29, 2017 Share #40 Posted January 29, 2017 I'd like to see Fireboy's experience replicated. I have no reason to disbelieve him, but would like to see others experience as well...no chimping, review off for a fully formed battery. Possibly the new M10 has much lower electrical draw, and so the camera gets more images on a lesser battery...unlikely, but possible? It's based on my own experiences with the camera as well as the physics of it, as well as other reviews that I've seen of the camera (most say the m240 has about 1.5x more shots/battery than the m10). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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