farnz Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share #8781 Posted March 6, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Camaro5 said: The one lens that does stand out to me is a Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm f/2. Not too expensive to find one in decent condition, but with something pre-war I guess you never know until you try it. Not wanting to start a discussion on the matter but trying to be helpful for those who might not be aware. How to avoid Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar fakes. Pete. 1947 Carl Zeiss Jena 50/2 Sonnar with M9P. Video interview, Copenhagen. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4395944'>More sharing options...
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Ecar Posted March 6, 2022 Share #8782 Posted March 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Camaro5 said: I've been seriously considering adding a vintage lens or two to my kit. So many of these have nice renderings but I'm not very familiar with most of them. I would prefer to stay with one kind of mount, either a Contax or M42 to not have to get multiple adapters. The one lens that does stand out to me is a Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm f/2. Not too expensive to find one in decent condition, but with something pre-war I guess you never know until you try it. If you go for Contax mount adapters, you can get RF coupling. Not so with M42 adapters, which will require the exclusive use of LV/EVF. If you get a Contax -> M adapter, do yourself a favour and buy a high-quality one, else your efforts risk ending in frustration. The problem is, these adapters may be as expensive as the lens itself, sometimes more in the case of cheap lenses. The CZJ Sonnar 50/2 is a good choice, but condition is indeed of the essence. To simplify: they are either pre-war and uncoated (hard to find one without cleaning marks or scratches on the front element) or wartime/post-war and coated (usually indicated by a "T" on the front ring). Also, since it's a Sonnar formula, some degree of focus shift is to be expected. As Pete says: beware of fakes although, in my experience, these primarily abound in the 50/1.5 and LTM variety. Later Zeiss Optons are also worth considering, as well as dozens of other vintage lenses in LTM mount that work with lower cost adapter rings, although most of them will require calibration if you are fussy about being able to achieve perfect focus with the rangefinder. Hope this helps. Now, since we are subtly reminded that this is not a discussion thread 😉, below are a couple taken with a 1941 coated CZJ Sonnar 50/2 (Contax mount + excellent Amedeo adapter) on my M10M, both @ f/2 I believe. Not particularly interesting, but I don't think I have posted them here before. I'll try and look for pictures from an earlier, uncoated copy later. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4395950'>More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share #8783 Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) One thing I'd add to Ecar's excellent advice is about Contax adaptors. The Nikon (Nikkor) and Contax mounts are very similar and the lenses will physically fit and work in each other's mount adaptors and some people will (wrongly) tell you that the mounts are interchangeable. The focussing thread pitch on Nikon and Contax lenses is slightly different and can lead to rangefinder focussing errors if a lens is used in the other's adaptor. For this reason Amadeo Muscelli's (excellent) adaptors are marked with "N" or "C" to distinguish between them. Pete. 1947 Carl Zeiss Jena 50/2 Sonnar with M9P. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 6, 2022 by farnz 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4396019'>More sharing options...
Dennis Posted March 6, 2022 Share #8784 Posted March 6, 2022 M10 + 90 Elmarit-M Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4396097'>More sharing options...
sandro Posted March 6, 2022 Share #8785 Posted March 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Alberti said: A lot has been said about hi-res sensors and smearing due to micro-movement: lines blurring across two cells. The same happens with 'old glass' that has not had a 'Karbe-treatment'. I am testing old glass and see some show just a bit more unsharpness in corners where previously it was less visible. Like Ecar, I can't really see what the problem seems to be. Lex 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jul Posted March 6, 2022 Share #8786 Posted March 6, 2022 Dandelion overlooking the ocean shot from below on a grey day (mis)using a Super-Angulon 21mm f4 and a M9. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4396117'>More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share #8787 Posted March 6, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1947 Carl Zeiss Jena 50/2 Sonnar with M9P. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4396200'>More sharing options...
Aryel Posted March 7, 2022 Share #8788 Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! m3, summilux 50 pre-asph (e46), fp4+ (rodinal 1:50), printed on mgfb and scanned Edited March 7, 2022 by Aryel 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! m3, summilux 50 pre-asph (e46), fp4+ (rodinal 1:50), printed on mgfb and scanned ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4396249'>More sharing options...
Erato Posted March 7, 2022 Share #8789 Posted March 7, 2022 Up... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Summicron-M 35mm F2, V1, ELC, M10M Summicron-M 35mm F2, V1, ELC, M10M 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Summicron-M 35mm F2, V1, ELC, M10M Summicron-M 35mm F2, V1, ELC, M10M ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4396299'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted March 7, 2022 Share #8790 Posted March 7, 2022 M10M + uncoated 1934 CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 (Contax mount with Amedeo adapter), both @ f/2.8 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4396718'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted March 7, 2022 Share #8791 Posted March 7, 2022 My version of the brick wall... M10M + 193X Astro-Berlin Pan-Tachar 50/1.8 (Contax on Amedeo adapter), wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4396752'>More sharing options...
Aryel Posted March 8, 2022 Share #8792 Posted March 8, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M3, summilux 50 pre-asph (e46), fp4+ (Rodinal 1:50), printed on mgfb and scanned 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M3, summilux 50 pre-asph (e46), fp4+ (Rodinal 1:50), printed on mgfb and scanned ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4397154'>More sharing options...
Erato Posted March 9, 2022 Share #8793 Posted March 9, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Tokyo Optical Co. Topcor 5cm F1.5 LTM, SL2 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Tokyo Optical Co. Topcor 5cm F1.5 LTM, SL2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4397644'>More sharing options...
JTH 36 Posted March 9, 2022 Share #8794 Posted March 9, 2022 Leica M10, 1956 Summaron 3.5 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4397671'>More sharing options...
Dennis Posted March 9, 2022 Share #8795 Posted March 9, 2022 The father-daughter dance tradition. Shooting weddings w/ M10 + 90 Elmarit-M wide open, 3200 iso at 1/125 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4397760'>More sharing options...
robbie3 Posted March 9, 2022 Share #8796 Posted March 9, 2022 London Tottenham Court Road. M10 + 1974 50mm Summicron V3 @ f/9.5 ISO 10000 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4397905'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted March 10, 2022 Share #8797 Posted March 10, 2022 M10P ASC + 2010 MS-Optical Perar Super-Triplet 35/3.5, wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4398108'>More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted March 10, 2022 Share #8798 Posted March 10, 2022 On Martinsel Hill (Marlborough Downs). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5cm Summicron Collapsible LTM, 111g, Acros 100. 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5cm Summicron Collapsible LTM, 111g, Acros 100. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4398181'>More sharing options...
JMF Posted March 10, 2022 Share #8799 Posted March 10, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 cm Nikkor 1.1 Leica M mount adapted on Leica SL 601 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 cm Nikkor 1.1 Leica M mount adapted on Leica SL 601 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4398199'>More sharing options...
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