pop Posted April 21, 2017 Share #321 Posted April 21, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) .... often degraded to the level I don't want to accept..... perhaps something to do with this? - Why does the forum shrink my photos and adds ugly artifacts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 Hi pop, Take a look here Please convince me the SL 50/1.4 is better than summilux. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
KariP Posted August 13, 2017 Share #322 Posted August 13, 2017 I was on a trip, left 24-90 mm home and shot Q 28mm, SL w Summilux-M 50mm asph and SL w 90-280 Looking through pictures the mild softnes of Summilux wide open bothers me some. Especially when compared to pictures taken with Q. Now I've read this chain through and found that as expected the SL 50 mm is tack sharp wide open and also thet the combo I used is used by others. Nice. When I compare my test shots: Q wide open vs SL 24-90 at 28mm wide open I like the crisp sharpness and more 3D effect of Q images. Now, convince me that the same difference is between Summilux-SL 50 mm vs Summilux-M 50 mm (obviously even more than between Q vs 24-90). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted August 13, 2017 Share #323 Posted August 13, 2017 One (of his many) excellent reviews here by Mr Farkas of Leica Store Miami might help answer your question .... http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2017/03/leica-summilux-sl-50mm-f1-4-asph-review-a-new-standard/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KariP Posted August 13, 2017 Share #324 Posted August 13, 2017 Thank you .. .... I can feel the symptoms .... I've got the gas infection again... Might it wear out or do I need to take the medicine (Summilux-SL 50) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted August 13, 2017 Share #325 Posted August 13, 2017 I think there is no doubt the images produced by the 50SL are technically better than the 50M .... but the weight makes it a difficult lens to carry about 'just in case' for the majority of amateurs engaged in casual photography. For specific sessional use or in a static environment it would be hard to beat. Carting it about on holiday with the usual gear in the sort of temperatures the Med is seeing at the moment is another story altogether ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted August 14, 2017 Share #326 Posted August 14, 2017 I think there is no doubt the images produced by the 50SL are technically better than the 50M .... but the weight makes it a difficult lens to carry about 'just in case' for the majority of amateurs engaged in casual photography. For specific sessional use or in a static environment it would be hard to beat. Carting it about on holiday with the usual gear in the sort of temperatures the Med is seeing at the moment is another story altogether ..... It is a fine lens. I had one. I sold it becuase I could not imagine carting it around. If I were in a studio, perhaps I would feel differently. I use the 50 APO Summicron M instead, and am perfectly happy with it. I keep the 24-90 zoom for when I absolutely need autofocus and/or variable focal length. I love the SL but coming from an M (I also shoot M10) the size of the native lenses is hard to deal with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 14, 2017 Share #327 Posted August 14, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) When I had the Olympus FourThirds SLRs and later the Panasonic Lumix G2, my most prized lens was the Panasonic/Leica Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH. This gives the same normal FoV as the Summilux-SL 50mm does on the SL body, modulo the difference in format proportion. I found myself often carrying nothing else, even though it was about the same size as the SL50mm and the body of the G2, in particular, was a lot smaller ... the imaging quality was that beautiful. Not carrying a superb lens because it's just too big I can understand, the superb SL 90-280mm is right on the edge for me, mostly since I don't use the longer focal lengths all that often. But the 50mm is not too big—for me, anyway. I'm unlikely to buy one purely because I already have the Summicron-R 50mm, Summilux-R 50mm, and the Macro-Elmarit-R 60mm ... never mind the M lenses. If the SL50 had been available at the start, I'd have bought that instead of the 24-90. A fast 50mm is just about the most useful lens I can think of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KariP Posted August 14, 2017 Share #328 Posted August 14, 2017 I come from Olympus OM-4, E-3, E-5, E-M1 with 14-35 mm f 2 (quite heavy) and I have the wonderful Pana Leica 25mm 1,4 too. Having tasted the Leica fruit one always wants more. Summilux-M 50 mm renders biting sharp at and beyond 2,8 but fully open it looses sharpness / contrast. And there are situations when the cinematic look and curving plane of focus is not welcomed. Architecture etc need corner to corner sharpness and less vignetting. I'm keeping my M(240) and Summilux-M for times they are the only ones to give the wished result. But for the other occasions I ordered today the SL 50 mm. What might be waiting time in Europe (Finland) at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted August 14, 2017 Share #329 Posted August 14, 2017 It is a fine lens. I had one. I sold it becuase I could not imagine carting it around. If I were in a studio, perhaps I would feel differently. I use the 50 APO Summicron M instead, and am perfectly happy with it. There will be a stack of potential variants in answering this question, but please can I ask how did you viewed the 50mm SL versus your M 50 APO in terms of any differences in image quality / rendering? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted August 15, 2017 Share #330 Posted August 15, 2017 There will be a stack of potential variants in answering this question, but please can I ask how did you viewed the 50mm SL versus your M 50 APO in terms of any differences in image quality / rendering? Apologies, but I did not do an analytic comparison between the lenses. The results from the APO are IMHO spectacularly good, and even if there were some "improvement" from the Summilux SL, I was not willing to trade that for the compactness of the APO. The clear advantage of the SL is one stop and autofocus. Neither was enough for me, but that is my own preference. I should have known from the prerelease pictures, so the loss I took on selling is entirely my fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted August 15, 2017 Share #331 Posted August 15, 2017 Tomorrow I'll take delivery of 50 m-lux asph, and I have the 50SL - so could potentially compare them. M10 isn't here yet, but I have m adapter for SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted August 15, 2017 Share #332 Posted August 15, 2017 Apologies, but I did not do an analytic comparison between the lenses. The results from the APO are IMHO spectacularly good, and even if there were some "improvement" from the Summilux SL, I was not willing to trade that for the compactness of the APO. The clear advantage of the SL is one stop and autofocus. Neither was enough for me, but that is my own preference. I should have known from the prerelease pictures, so the loss I took on selling is entirely my fault. Thanks for your comments. I recently got the M 50mm APO for my M240. A brilliant lens indeed. If I moved to an SL, I'd likely keep the M 50mm APO for that focal length, if it's already similar in image quality to the SL 50mm Summilux. I am actually mainly intrigued by the SL for other Non-50mm focal lengths, given the pending launch of the relatively compact SL Summicrons (especially the 35mm one) which promise to be potentially amazing and ahead of nearly anything in the M range in terms of image quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted August 16, 2017 Share #333 Posted August 16, 2017 Super non scientific study between the lenses The m-lux is prettier, the SL is sharper. 50mm M-Lux taken with 50mm SL-Lux by dancook1982, on Flickr 50SL taken with 50 mLux by dancook1982, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted August 16, 2017 Share #334 Posted August 16, 2017 Super non scientific study between the lenses The m-lux is prettier, the SL is sharper. 50mm M-Lux taken with 50mm SL-Lux by dancook1982, on Flickr 50SL taken with 50 mLux by dancook1982, on Flickr Are you going to use the 50SL for weddings Dan? If so I'd love to see what it produces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted August 16, 2017 Share #335 Posted August 16, 2017 Are you going to use the 50SL for weddings Dan? If so I'd love to see what it produces. I'm pretty sure he has... the new addition is the 50 M. He has some gorgeous stuff with the 50SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted August 16, 2017 Share #336 Posted August 16, 2017 I'm pretty sure he has... the new addition is the 50 M. He has some gorgeous stuff with the 50SL. Ah thanks Donzo. Sometimes reading web posts is like trying to read a novel through a letterbox. You can only see one sentence at a time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted August 16, 2017 Share #337 Posted August 16, 2017 Are you going to use the 50SL for weddings Dan? If so I'd love to see what it produces. I have been using the 50sl for weddings, but now I am going to see if I can just the leica M with the m10 just as effectively.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted August 16, 2017 Share #338 Posted August 16, 2017 I have been using the 50sl for weddings, but now I am going to see if I can just the leica M with the m10 just as effectively.. f5.6 ;-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted August 17, 2017 Share #339 Posted August 17, 2017 f5.6 ;-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I borrowed a friend's M10 to shoot during a wedding ceremony for which I was a second shooter, the other day. I'm excited about the prospect of using one for weddings, but will need to get the practice in before i make a possible switch - I will have the Q, Sl and M for a while and see what I settle on. M10 Wedding by dancook1982, on Flickr M10 Wedding by dancook1982, on Flickr M10 Wedding by dancook1982, on Flickr M10 Wedding by dancook1982, on Flickr M10 Wedding by dancook1982, on Flickr M10 Wedding by dancook1982, on Flickr M10 Wedding by dancook1982, on Flickr M10 Wedding by dancook1982, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 17, 2017 Share #340 Posted August 17, 2017 Super non scientific study between the lenses The m-lux is prettier, the SL is sharper. 50mm M-Lux taken with 50mm SL-Lux by dancook1982, on Flickr 50SL taken with 50 mLux by dancook1982, on Flickr I can only look at them on my cell phone right now. The m-lux pops off my screen. It's 3D-like. Nice wedding pics with the M10, by the way. It suits you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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