bill Posted April 13, 2011 Share #2141 Posted April 13, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) They're brass alright. Luvly. It will take a generation or two for my MP to have the same buttery feeling. Regards, Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Hi bill, Take a look here I love my MP. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
andybarton Posted April 13, 2011 Share #2142 Posted April 13, 2011 Via Andrew Nemeth, who knows of which he speaks In reference to adding a motor to early Ms... "Be very careful with as the brass gears in the M3, M2 & M4 were designed with gentler, low-torque forces in mind. When the motor became available in the mid 70s, Leica had to use toughened steel gears to cope with higher internal stresses and torque during motor-driven winding. So by mounting a Rapidwinder or motor onto your M2/3/4, you can - if you are not careful - end up stripping your brass-gear camera and turning the innards to junk! " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted April 13, 2011 Share #2143 Posted April 13, 2011 I think that you will find that an M2 has brass gears too. And a flare-free viewfinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted April 13, 2011 Share #2144 Posted April 13, 2011 Via Andrew Nemeth, who knows of which he speaks In reference to adding a motor to early Ms... "Be very careful with as the brass gears in the M3, M2 & M4 were designed with gentler, low-torque forces in mind. When the motor became available in the mid 70s, Leica had to use toughened steel gears to cope with higher internal stresses and torque during motor-driven winding. So by mounting a Rapidwinder or motor onto your M2/3/4, you can - if you are not careful - end up stripping your brass-gear camera and turning the innards to junk! " Hi The current Leicavit and winders (will) only work on M4-2 and later cameras, cause these late cameras have the coupling device, there may be problems with early M4-2, needing adjustment. Some of the Canuck (3rd party) baseplate/levers will work on M2 but they were only made in limited numbers. But you dont need a motor or base/lever worn brass gears can be 'stripped'. The M2 (M4, M5 and early M4-2/M4-P) did not come with coated cover glass (like the MP and M7) but it included (they included) the condenser lens missing in M6 and some M4-P and some M4-2. The M2 were cheaper, cause they were simpler, button rewind (you had to hold in), no self timer, no auto frame counter reset, simpler rfdr (but like the MPs) than the M3. Later production M2 have some of these upgraded. They all had depth of field notches in rfdr. Think the MPs have a one way clutch in their rewind knob assembly that M2 and M3 lack... Noel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted April 14, 2011 Share #2145 Posted April 14, 2011 My understanding is that the MP's top plate and base plate are brass and the internal gearing is bronze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 14, 2011 Share #2146 Posted April 14, 2011 It's certainly not bronze - that's slightly softer than Green and Black's 40% cocoa dark chocolate. I think you mean brass Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted April 14, 2011 Share #2147 Posted April 14, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The misinformation spread around is Stupefying! Thank you, Internet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted April 14, 2011 Share #2148 Posted April 14, 2011 The misinformation spread around is Stupefying! Thank you, Internet! Yes, my MP isn't suffed with bras. Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted April 15, 2011 Share #2149 Posted April 15, 2011 This is what I was thinking of but misremembering: Slightly smoother film advance due to better internal parts (shutter break base board is made of bronze in the MP) The Leica MP Film Camera Review - Film is NOT dead! | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted April 15, 2011 Share #2150 Posted April 15, 2011 In other MP news, the newer of my black MPs has a very visible pinpoint hole burnt into its shutter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted April 15, 2011 Share #2151 Posted April 15, 2011 >> Jonathan Did it appear like this out of the box ?? If not: shit happens. EVERYTHING can be mended. Best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted April 15, 2011 Share #2152 Posted April 15, 2011 Hi Easy to do... Easy to fix Black fabric paint both sides leave for 48 hours without touching or winding shutter... Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted April 18, 2011 Share #2153 Posted April 18, 2011 Georg, the shutter got burnt at some point when I was shooting my last rolls of Kodachrome toward the end of last year. Don't know exactly when or how. It happened with the 50 Summilux mounted, as if that makes any difference. Noel, thanks for the advice, but I've already taken it to Leica, who are replacing the shutter and giving the camera a complete overhaul. The fabric paint option would have been difficult because the hole was very close to the white metering spot. Still, it would have been doable and far cheaper than turning it over to Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 20, 2011 Share #2154 Posted April 20, 2011 Just had an email from @stephens_leica. Something small, black and very sexy should arrive in Manchester tomorrow. Either I was lucky and just got on the end of a batch, or Leica are batching M7s and MPs more often. Anyway, if it does come tomorrow that will have been almost exactly a month from ordering. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted April 20, 2011 Share #2155 Posted April 20, 2011 Andy, was it a la carte, or standard? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 20, 2011 Share #2156 Posted April 20, 2011 It was a-la-carte. 0.58 finder and black leather covering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 20, 2011 Share #2157 Posted April 20, 2011 Just had an email from @stephens_leica. Something small, black and very sexy should arrive in Manchester tomorrow. ...I'm a big fan of Halle Berry myself Seriously, can't wait to see it Regards, Bill 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted April 20, 2011 Share #2158 Posted April 20, 2011 The fabric paint option would have been difficult because the hole was very close to the white metering spot. Still, it would have been doable and far cheaper than turning it over to Leica. Well the fabric paint needs to be a thin as possible to get into the pin hole, and you should be able to get it in black or white, you only need a droplet into the hole, But you can even leave a black spot on the white spot, as in Blind Pew in RL Stevenson - Treasure Island. If you carry the camera on a neck strap with a wide angle lens it is easy to do, again. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 22, 2011 Share #2159 Posted April 22, 2011 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267593-i-love-my-mp/?do=findComment&comment=1652783'>More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 22, 2011 Share #2160 Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) One more pic, and then that's enough camera porn for one afternoon... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Just playing around with it this lunchtime, and comparing with its much bigger brother the M7 with winder, it struck me that, although it's a fully manual camera, it's really a "shutter priority fully manual camera". The shutter dial is a lot easier to use on the M7, of course, so when in manual mode, either the aperture or the shutter speed dial can be adjusted with equal ease. That's not the case with the MP. I'm looking forward to running some film through it later - it think that the first real shot should be of the long suffering Mrs B... Edited April 22, 2011 by andybarton 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Just playing around with it this lunchtime, and comparing with its much bigger brother the M7 with winder, it struck me that, although it's a fully manual camera, it's really a "shutter priority fully manual camera". The shutter dial is a lot easier to use on the M7, of course, so when in manual mode, either the aperture or the shutter speed dial can be adjusted with equal ease. That's not the case with the MP. I'm looking forward to running some film through it later - it think that the first real shot should be of the long suffering Mrs B... ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267593-i-love-my-mp/?do=findComment&comment=1652845'>More sharing options...
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