andybarton Posted March 19, 2011 Share #2081 Posted March 19, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) You are setting the standard for birthday presents... You're only 40 once... <cough> 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Hi andybarton, Take a look here I love my MP. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
farnz Posted March 19, 2011 Share #2082 Posted March 19, 2011 You're only 40 once... <cough> Who invented that rule?! I've been 40 for the past 15 years. Well ... 39 actually. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cwcheung Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2083 Posted March 22, 2011 My MP Classic Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267593-i-love-my-mp/?do=findComment&comment=1621766'>More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2084 Posted March 22, 2011 Very nice lenses, to go with it ;-) I am also already in love with the Leicavit MP - I use it for about a week and it is the perfect addition to the MP. After using the MP now for a while, I plan, to get MP advance levers for all other Leica film bodies. The MP lever is superior in the way, that you do not have to pull out the advance lever first, to be able, to wind, but you can directly wind on - this is much quicker and smoother as the tippy plastic levers (although less technically ingenious, but more practical indeed). But seriously - you should take that protection film off the camera - it is meant, to wear after all ! ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganzosrevenge Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2085 Posted March 22, 2011 not to sound slow, but but what exactly within a leicavit makes it work? (ie: how do the guts work to move the film along and whatnot) Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cwcheung Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2086 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) Very nice lenses, to go with it ;-) I am also already in love with the Leicavit MP - I use it for about a week and it is the perfect addition to the MP. After using the MP now for a while, I plan, to get MP advance levers for all other Leica film bodies. The MP lever is superior in the way, that you do not have to pull out the advance lever first, to be able, to wind, but you can directly wind on - this is much quicker and smoother as the tippy plastic levers (although less technically ingenious, but more practical indeed). But seriously - you should take that protection film off the camera - it is meant, to wear after all ! ;-) I will. IMHO, Leicavit is the best accessory for film M. Edited March 22, 2011 by cwcheung Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2087 Posted March 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) not to sound slow, but but what exactly within a leicavit makes it work? (ie: how do the guts work to move the film along and whatnot) Jason Think about the Leicavit as a motor drive, that attaches through the one round coupling in the bottom of your Leica, which advances the camera, but without battery power. It has gears in the housing, that transfer the linear motion of the lever into torque to the coupling (it doesn't flip, but moves linear, always perpendicular to the bottom plate). Every complete pull of the lever translates to one complete advance by the normal advance lever of the camera. The Leicavit can advance the frame a lot quicker, than you can with your right thumb. When using the Leicavit, you also can keep the camera planted to your eye, as you don't have to move it away from your face, to get access to the advance lever (especially helpful for left eye shooters). The great thing is, that with Leicavit attached, you can use both the normal advance lever and/or the Leicavit, to advance the film, depending on situation. The advance lever is a bit more silent. You can advance the film with the advance lever one handed, holding the camera min your right hand only with multiple small strokes. But you can also use the Leicavit, when it counts. I find also, that it makes shooting tele lenses more comfortable. The camera is slightly higher, slightly more hefty and the lever can be a help in stabilizing the camera, when connecting to your left ring finger, while framing at low shutter speeds. It is a perfect match! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganzosrevenge Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2088 Posted March 22, 2011 Think about the Leicavit as a motor drive, that attaches through the one round coupling in the bottom of your Leica, which advances the camera, but without battery power.It has gears in the housing, that transfer the linear motion of the lever into torque to the coupling (it doesn't flip, but moves linear, always perpendicular to the bottom plate). Every complete pull of the lever translates to one complete advance by the normal advance lever of the camera. The Leicavit can advance the frame a lot quicker, than you can with your right thumb. When using the Leicavit, you also can keep the camera planted to your eye, as you don't have to move it away from your face, to get access to the advance lever (especially helpful for left eye shooters). The great thing is, that with Leicavit attached, you can use both the normal advance lever and/or the Leicavit, to advance the film, depending on situation. The advance lever is a bit more silent. You can advance the film with the advance lever one handed, holding the camera min your right hand only with multiple small strokes. But you can also use the Leicavit, when it counts. I find also, that it makes shooting tele lenses more comfortable. The camera is slightly higher, slightly more hefty and the lever can be a help in stabilizing the camera, when connecting to your left ring finger, while framing at low shutter speeds. It is a perfect match! Ahh... so it's like a 'mot' for an R-body, but instead of a battery powering it, you power it by flicking the lever. I'm an SLR guy (I have a Flex SL) so i don't own an MP (I wanted a Leica, but the SL was the only one within reach ). I do love the simplicity of them and the quiet operation (the SL is the 35mm equivalent to a cannon). Insofar as use, how does one focus a rangefinder as opposed to an SLR? (Seeing all those MPs is making me want one badly... so I want to learn how they work for that day where I can add myself to the ranks) Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thremur Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2089 Posted March 22, 2011 In the german part of the forum it is possible to have a look inside a Leicavit: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-sammler-historica/170974-leicavit-mp.html#post1637980 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2090 Posted March 22, 2011 That's an older Leicavit. I wonder of the design has changed that much since then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganzosrevenge Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2091 Posted March 22, 2011 the chain and 2 springs, i take it are the push pull for the stick thing that pokes up? and when i flick the handle, it pulls the chain, one spring shrinks, one expands? But what hooks to the film sprocket to drag the film? Like a sprocket axle on an SLR? And what are those weaknesses I hear about with it? (SOrry, this is all interesting to me) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thremur Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2092 Posted March 22, 2011 That's an older Leicavit. I wonder of the design has changed that much since then? They say that in the new one is a drive belt and no chain anymore... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisemann Posted March 22, 2011 Share #2093 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) Most pleased with the MP.85 and 50 Summilux (pre-asph) combination Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 23, 2011 by Eisemann 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267593-i-love-my-mp/?do=findComment&comment=1622663'>More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted March 23, 2011 Share #2094 Posted March 23, 2011 My MP Classic WOW. Black Paint everything, NIIIIIIICE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiver Posted March 23, 2011 Share #2095 Posted March 23, 2011 Eisemann, that chrome MP and 50 is hot. I have a M9 and M7. M9 was bought brand new, M7 secondhand and a really good price. I've more or less convinced myself that I don't 'need' a MP, but this thread does not help!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted March 23, 2011 Share #2096 Posted March 23, 2011 That's an older Leicavit. I wonder of the design has changed that much since then? Peter, you may find this site interesting. Tom Abrahamsson who designed and made a "rapidwinder" whilst Leica were in the phase of not making them a few years ago. He also makes one for the M2, which Leica do not, and it allows the use of self load IXMOO cassettes which is a serious "IMHO" shortcoming of the current MP offering. RapidWinder.com Home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 23, 2011 Share #2097 Posted March 23, 2011 I had a Rapidwinder for a while, having bought it as a set with a Rapidgrip. I still have the grip on my M7, but in spite of being a left-eyed shooter I never really got on with the Rapidwinder. That said, it was a beautiful piece of engineering, made with all Tom's attention to detail. It was indeed belt-driven with a toothed rubber belt a little over a quarter of an inch wide, as I recall. It was quiet and smooth in use, but just didn't suit my method of working any more than a motordrive does. The only other thing I remember was that you had to do a little DIY... Leica would not provide Tom with the little spoked wheel that the film drive "petals" fit into so you had to unscrew that from your own baseplate and fit it to the Rapidwinder. This was one of the things that put me off, because it meant you couldn't switch easily between the two. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted March 23, 2011 Share #2098 Posted March 23, 2011 Leica would not provide Tom with the little spoked wheel that the film drive "petals" fit into so you had to unscrew that from your own baseplate and fit it to the Rapidwinder. I bought a "tulip" from Don Goldberg (DAG camera parts) and added it to the Rapidwinder I once had. The screw is there, and once you have the part it is a 30 sec fix. I sold the Rapidwinder as it wasn't for me, couldn't get comfortable with it. I'm now using a Motor-M and like that a lot. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 23, 2011 Share #2099 Posted March 23, 2011 The nice thing about the Rapidwinder or Leicavit, compared to the Motor-M is, that it lacks the bulk, weight and the grip, keeping the sleekness of the pure MP body. It is also quite a bit less noisy. I also like, that it is fool proof in operation. My Motor-M has locked already two cameras, from which one has to go to Leica, to be reanimated (M7). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 23, 2011 Share #2100 Posted March 23, 2011 Ahh... so it's like a 'mot' for an R-body, but instead of a battery powering it, you power it by flicking the lever. I'm an SLR guy (I have a Flex SL) so i don't own an MP (I wanted a Leica, but the SL was the only one within reach ). I do love the simplicity of them and the quiet operation (the SL is the 35mm equivalent to a cannon). Insofar as use, how does one focus a rangefinder as opposed to an SLR? (Seeing all those MPs is making me want one badly... so I want to learn how they work for that day where I can add myself to the ranks) Jason Hi Jason If you can forgo the nice black paint a chrome M2, with dealer warranty is about 400GBP, a used CV f/2.5 35mm lens about 200GBP. You may find you like the M2 better (than a MP), they dont accept leicavits though, but unless you can only use your left eye you dont need a baseplate winder, the lever just flicks effortlessly. You set the lens to six foot and shoot them between the eyes Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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