Bobby Posted December 18, 2016 Share #1 Posted December 18, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I use eyeglasses all the time but I think it'd be helpful to have a magnifier for precise focusing, especially when the lens is wide open. I have found mixed reviews about the 1.25x. I'm looking for a magnifier for 50mm and 35mm focal ranges, mostly 50mm. I'd be also nice to know if anyone makes angle viewfinders for 50mm and/or 35mm. I have a 262, so the EVF is not an option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lucerne Posted December 18, 2016 Share #2 Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Magnifiers are most commonly used when used in conjunction with 50mm and longer lenses because the effective rangefinder focus patch area decreases when increasing lens focal length. .However, they do cause the frame lines to become awkward to see. Alternatively, I think you could find that by fitting a Leica diopter lens into your viewfinder would give a better result without interfering with the ability to continue to see the full frame in the viewfinder. Fortunately, the 262 has the necessary screw thread to accept the diopter lens. I visited my optician with my camera and he was able to test my eyes with the various diopter strengths to find the optimal value which I then purchased from a leica dealer. I wouldn't be without it now on my M. Edited December 18, 2016 by lucerne 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 18, 2016 Share #3 Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Adding to lucerne's post, the magnifier diminishes the brightness of the view. Speaking only for myself, one who wears glasses, the combined lower light creates a challenge, slows my focusing. I have only used the magnifier in low light for the Summilux 75mm. Your experience might differ. I look forward to others' experiences. . Edited December 18, 2016 by pico 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 18, 2016 Share #4 Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) If you can see the focus patch clearly with your glasses (2m virtual distance), then you should have no problem focusing without the magnifier when using 35 or 50mm lenses. Perhaps your glasses aren't correcting sufficiently for that distance (and/or for any astigmatism), in which case a magnifier will just magnify the problem. But each person has different needs and preferences.....glasses, diopters (the Walter RX Eyepiece also corrects for astigmatism), magnifiers or nothing at all. Might help to take your camera to your optician and experiment with diopters and/or glasses prescription. Doesn't matter what we think if it works for you. And a good optician should be able to help once he/she understands the requirements. Once you eliminate any correction needs, you can of course order a magnifier and see if it helps; if not, return it. I use glasses only.....my 1.25x magnifier, which I bought ages ago, sits in a drawer. It isn't needed.....and can reduce contrast. YMMV. Jeff Edited December 18, 2016 by Jeff S 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted December 19, 2016 Share #5 Posted December 19, 2016 contrarian opinion! I have found the combination of the correct diopter and the 1.25X magnifier to be very helpful and makes accurate focusing so much easier. As mentioned above, the key is getting the correct diopter so talk to your optometrist or ophthalmologist! Albert 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 19, 2016 Share #6 Posted December 19, 2016 Yes, eyes and preferences are different. To elaborate, if I were to use a diopter, then I would still need to put my glasses on for general viewing, and they would have to be sunglasses in daylight to deal with light sensitivity. Taking glasses on and off would be a major pain. I can't tolerate contacts, and I have astigmatism, so I would require something like the Walter RX piece, which is big, rotating and not my cup of tea. And I can't imagine a magnifier on top of that lump. Instead, with the proper eyeglass prescription, I solve everything at once, seeing the focus patch clearly as well as my subject matter, which is what this is all about. Again this is not something solved by forum survey; circumstances can, and usually do, differ. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblutter Posted December 19, 2016 Share #7 Posted December 19, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1.25 cuts off too much - and it is dark. I got a new glasses Rx, new glasses alone work best for me - and nothing wrong with shooting a few extra frames & picking the best later. In critical situations (especially on a tripod) LV to the rescue. Current EVF I find more a nuisance than anything - glad I got a used Olympus version Try focusing with the camera at an angle, then recompose And practice a lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted December 27, 2016 Share #8 Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) contrarian opinion! I have found the combination of the correct diopter and the 1.25X magnifier to be very helpful and makes accurate focusing so much easier. As mentioned above, the key is getting the correct diopter so talk to your optometrist or ophthalmologist! Albert The opposite for me: I use a diopter and find it invaluable (am now 81!) but adding the magnifier brought not a scrap of improvement. Edited December 27, 2016 by microview Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsrimanus Posted December 27, 2016 Share #9 Posted December 27, 2016 I don't wear glasses, but the 1.4x magnifier is indispensable for my Noctilux. I don't use them with 35/50 summilux though, as the magnifier blocks out too much viewable area. I'd suggest that you try them out before buying. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 28, 2016 Share #10 Posted December 28, 2016 I'd be also nice to know if anyone makes angle viewfinders for 50mm and/or 35mm. I have a 262, so the EVF is not an option.Standard Leica accessory: https://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Technical-Equipment/Viewfinder-Accessories/Angle-viewfinder-M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 28, 2016 Share #11 Posted December 28, 2016 I use the 1.4x magnifier for 50mm and longer. It's effective. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted December 29, 2016 Share #12 Posted December 29, 2016 I use eyeglasses all the time but I think it'd be helpful to have a magnifier for precise focusing, especially when the lens is wide open. I have found mixed reviews about the 1.25x. I'm looking for a magnifier for 50mm and 35mm focal ranges, mostly 50mm. I'd be also nice to know if anyone makes angle viewfinders for 50mm and/or 35mm. I have a 262, so the EVF is not an option. Why is the EVF not an option ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted December 29, 2016 Share #13 Posted December 29, 2016 M262 does not support live view, video or EVF. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
105012 Posted December 29, 2016 Share #14 Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) I leave a Leica 1.25x magnifier on my M5 as it helps when I switch from one of my M3's. (The M5 only has 0.72 magnification, so this brings it up to a more useful 0.90). I don't notice any problem with the 50mm frame line and brightness is good (not like an M3, but good). Might just be that the M5 has a bright viewfinder to start with? Edited December 29, 2016 by 105012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted December 29, 2016 Share #15 Posted December 29, 2016 M262 does not support live view, video or EVF. Thanks! I suppose I should have known this - thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironringer Posted January 12, 2021 Share #16 Posted January 12, 2021 Revisiting this topic, does the Leica #12004 1.25X magnifier fit the M240? And, does anyone have experience with the Match Technical magnifiers that include diopter adjustment-correction? Those would seem to offer the best of both worlds = correction for individual eyesight plus magnified viewfinder patch for better focusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted January 12, 2021 Share #17 Posted January 12, 2021 Yes the magnifier #12004 x1.25 can be used with M(typ 240). I have no experience with the other one. Maybe you can go to your nearest Leica Dealer and have a look if you can better see through the VF, trying some of their diopter correction with your camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raphael Posted April 19, 2022 Share #18 Posted April 19, 2022 I'm considering buying the magnifier again. I had the 1.25x version once and sold it. Unfortunately, I do not remember why. Probably because of the protruding bump on the back of the camera. Two questions: 1. Which one would you suggest (1.25x or 1.4x) when I'm mostly shooting a 50mm lens (actually it's the 45mm Planar) 2. Does the protruding bump bother you when wearing the camera around your neck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted April 19, 2022 Share #19 Posted April 19, 2022 As usual, the best way is to try out the magnifier with your camera. I'm sure that nobody can say just because we are all different. If you sold it maybe it was not for you As side note, M viewfinder is comfortable without magnifier, focussing has some margin not to worry when we can "focus" using the RF. 😉 Good to know that the little chain is attached to tell user that the mag. is not to be attached full time to M VF. I don't use the mag. full time, but happy to be able to use one when I need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 19, 2022 Share #20 Posted April 19, 2022 Correct your vision first as best as possible for RF viewing; otherwise any issues will just be magnified. With glasses and a diopter, I don’t need a magnifier, which reduces contrast anyway. But we’re all different. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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