jmahto Posted October 19, 2016 Share #21 Posted October 19, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Wilson, I would say the 35 would be the most useful all rounder lens, or possibly the 28 if you want to concentrate more on architecture shots. My only visit to Berlin was for the One Challenge a few years ago, but it's (another) city I really want to return to. I found the east side far more interesting and pleasant to wander around. Here's a few of my photos One of the new 28 summaron lens images (link below) is from the same vantage point as in the first image. I can see a new McDonald. http://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/M-Lenses/Summaron-M-28-mm-f-5.6/Images That picture is illustrative of what you will get from 28mm vs 35mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anton-M6 Posted October 19, 2016 Share #22 Posted October 19, 2016 I visited Berlin four weeks ago with my M6 and the 35mm but I missed sometimes a 28mm lens. Don't forget to visit the Museum für Fotografie: http://www.smb.museum/en/museums-institutions/museum-fuer-fotografie/home.html and the C/O Berlin: http://www.co-berlin.org/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 19, 2016 Share #23 Posted October 19, 2016 One of the new 28 summaron lens images (link below) is from the same vantage point as in the first image. I can see a new McDonald. http://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/M-Lenses/Summaron-M-28-mm-f-5.6/Images That picture is illustrative of what you will get from 28mm vs 35mm. That's a coincidence! I was nearer though, notice the road markings, so the 28 was taken from about 5M further back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikiphoto Posted October 19, 2016 Share #24 Posted October 19, 2016 Forgive me if I have missed something Wilson but why not pack the 28, 35 and 50? They are not heavy and then choose just one to take one out on your first day and see how it goes. If it doesn't suit change it for the afternoon or next day. Leave the others in your room safe. I am debating similar choices for my December Venice trip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #25 Posted October 19, 2016 We are intending to travel as light as possible and when I think my father managed to take the vast majority his thousands of excellent photos with a 50mm Summar on his IIIA and 80mm Tessar on his Super Ikonta, I thought I might just be able to manage on a 4 day trip with just the one lens. It is a good discipline as well and makes you think about your framing. I am not attracted by the 28 Summaron at all. To me it is a one trick pony, being a big depth of focus. My 28 ASPH can do that by just shutting the aperture down. OTOH I can open up the 28 ASPH for low light and shallower DOF, which is not an option for the Summaron. It is not as if the 28 ASPH is a huge lump anyway. I use it with a very compact Contax GG1 black anodised titanium hood. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmay Posted October 19, 2016 Share #26 Posted October 19, 2016 I think I will go for the 28 ASPH and crop where required to get tighter framing. I might change my mind before I go. I have a trip to Myanmar before that in November for a classic car rally from Chiang Rai just into Thailand finishing at Yangon two weeks later. I am taking the SL and 24-90 for that and my Reid and Sigrist III with 50 series V Summicron LTM lens and lots of Fomapan 200 film. I was just hunting in my cupboards for the filmsafe bag I bought years ago. Whereas airport x-rays in western countries are supposed not to fog film, I am not sure the same applies to the less than well maintained equipment in other parts of the world. When we went through security in a small airport in India some time ago, the bags were going through the security scanner in their usual fits and jerks but when I got round the other side of the security area, I could see that the screen was either not switched on or broken and the operator had his back to it in any case, chatting to one of his colleagues. He was just leaning to one side and pressing the conveyer belt switch every few seconds. Wilson I have taken a large and medium format cameras and film to China, Thailand, Cambodia and Laos without film fog problems. Sent from my Lenovo YT3-850L using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 19, 2016 Share #27 Posted October 19, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, we've done the film/X-ray thing lots of times. Wilson, don't worry about film as long as you keep it in the carry on luggage. Even the Xray machines in more remote areas will only work up to a certain strength, they need to be safe for staff operating them and us, passengers, also in close proximity to them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #28 Posted October 19, 2016 Thanks folks for the heads up on x-ray scanners. I am only taking 200 B&W ISO film. Apparently if you take 3200 or 6400 ISO fogging can still be a problem. I must remember to ABLON and ABCOO all the films before I leave, as I am not taking the template and trimmer with me. I have already carelessly lost an ABLON in the past on a trip and I don't want to lose this nice pair in their original Morocco leather cases. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted October 24, 2016 Share #29 Posted October 24, 2016 35 cron , if 2nd lens desired 75 cron. Both small and fairly lite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted October 24, 2016 Share #30 Posted October 24, 2016 I've visited Berlin twice in recent years. Each time I took 21, 35 and 90mm lenses but if I remember correctly, the 35 was by far the most used. In all honesty you can't go wrong with either your 35 or 40. 28 for me would be a frustration - I'd much prefer a 21. But it depends on your way of taking pix at the end of the day and advice or other's experience may help but can't determine your vision of what you take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted October 24, 2016 Share #31 Posted October 24, 2016 I would take my 28 too in your case, although that's new for me. I seem to get wider since digital. I'm ashamed to say that my 35FLE is a bit workless since I bought the newest 28Cron. Although... I wouldn't go to Berlin with one lens and would use the 35FLE for rainy nights in the pubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share #32 Posted October 24, 2016 I have decided I will take the 28 Summicron but put a 50 Noctilux in my case, for night walks. So much for one camera one lens! Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jmahto Posted October 24, 2016 Share #34 Posted October 24, 2016 I have decided I will take the 28 Summicron but put a 50 Noctilux in my case, for night walks. So much for one camera one lens! Wilson Let us know how it goes. I have found that 28 summicron is adequate for night time handheld shots because it can handle very slow shutter speed (I have used 1/15 sec consistently and 1/8 with some luck). I doubt you can go that low with 50mm. But then Noctilux is heavier and may be stable at slow speeds. I will be interested in comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share #35 Posted October 24, 2016 Let us know how it goes. I have found that 28 summicron is adequate for night time handheld shots because it can handle very slow shutter speed (I have used 1/15 sec consistently and 1/8 with some luck). I doubt you can go that low with 50mm. But then Noctilux is heavier and may be stable at slow speeds. I will be interested in comparison. My problem is my hands are quite weak due to arthritis and not particularly steady either so for a 1/15 shot, I have to be resting the camera on something. I also love the shallow DOF effects you can get with a Noctilux. It will be interesting to see how much the sensor of the successor to the M240 is improved for high ISO shots. If it is as far ahead of the SL as the SL is of the M240, that is the thing that might just persuade me to buy it. I am not terribly interested in more pixels and hope Leica don't trade off a headline high pixel count for impaired high ISO performance. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted October 24, 2016 Share #36 Posted October 24, 2016 My problem is my hands are quite weak due to arthritis and not particularly steady either so for a 1/15 shot, I have to be resting the camera on something. I also love the shallow DOF effects you can get with a Noctilux. It will be interesting to see how much the sensor of the successor to the M240 is improved for high ISO shots. If it is as far ahead of the SL as the SL is of the M240, that is the thing that might just persuade me to buy it. I am not terribly interested in more pixels and hope Leica don't trade off a headline high pixel count for impaired high ISO performance. Wilson Yes. For shallow DOF you do need your Noctilux. I have 50lux but I use it rarely. Only used for people pictures (mostly my better half).... and I totally agree with your high ISO comment (highlight mine). Enjoy your vacation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted October 24, 2016 Share #37 Posted October 24, 2016 ...I was just hunting in my cupboards for the filmsafe bag I bought years ago... Wilson I live in Kuala Lumpur, Wilson, and travel frequently around Asia (including Yangon several times per year) and West Africa. I haven't bothered with film-safe bags for any of my trips. 400ASA is the fastest film I carry, and haven't had any problems with unexposed or exposed films (other than problems directly associated with the photographer). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted October 24, 2016 Share #38 Posted October 24, 2016 I have decided I will take the 28 Summicron but put a 50 Noctilux in my case, for night walks. So much for one camera one lens! Wilson I'm disappointed, Wilson - I thought you would join the merry band of 1-lens excusioners (it is, to me, a liberating experience). Any chance we can dare you to leave the Noctilux at home? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 24, 2016 Share #39 Posted October 24, 2016 Take a 35 Summilux and don't look back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pechelman Posted October 25, 2016 Share #40 Posted October 25, 2016 was there last year with a 21, 35, and 50. The 21 got some use, but most of the shots I ended up keeping from it got cropped more than I liked. The 35 was OK, but I'm just not able to get comfortable with it in cities for travel type photography. The 50 got a bunch more use than I expected. Personally, if I was doing it over, the 28mm would go in the bag first and without any thought. 2nd would be the 50. Sounds like you made your decision, but I was going to advocate for bringing the 28 on the camera and also bring the 50 summicron, but leave it in the room. The 50'cron is so tiny that packing it and leaving it really isnt a big deal imo. Then swap it out every couple of days and leave the 28 at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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