Wenge Posted September 2, 2016 Share #1 Posted September 2, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I rented M6-TTL and wished for a digital version, is this it --as far as the body size and feel and simplicity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Hi Wenge, Take a look here Is M262 similar in form to M6-TTL?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
colonel Posted September 2, 2016 Share #2 Posted September 2, 2016 I rented M6-TTL and wished for a digital version, is this it --as far as the body size and feel and simplicity?There is no real digital version of a film camera The M6 TTL is smaller lighter and quieter then the M262 You have to change the roll every 24/36 photos though and have it processed Personally I would have both. Consider also the M240 which has live view, excellent for both checking the range finder and the adjustment of new lenses ... The main advantage of the M262 is 90g lighter, less menu options and less buttons and shorter shutter sound Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted September 2, 2016 Share #3 Posted September 2, 2016 I think the M 240 can be thought of as a digital version of an M film camera within the limits of feasibility. Despite all the banging on about it in the forum, size and weight are the same - they are both small cameras. Operating focus and aperture are the same. The view is the same, changing shutter speed and operating the shutter is the same. With the 240 there are some extra computer things which you don't need to bother about once you have set them up. The difference is only in loading, advancing, unloading and processing film on the one hand and loading, unloading and processing the digital negatives on the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #4 Posted September 2, 2016 I went from M2 to M9. Yes, the M9 (and M240/262) is bigger and heavier, but not unreasonably so, and in terms of user operation it felt like a natural progression, but with familiar controls, and it accepted all my old lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpitt Posted September 2, 2016 Share #5 Posted September 2, 2016 I went from M2 to M9. Yes, the M9 (and M240/262) is bigger and heavier, but not unreasonably so, and in terms of user operation it felt like a natural progression, but with familiar controls, and it accepted all my old lenses.Agreed, if you do not chimp a lot, it feels more like the M7 with A mode present. Major difference is that with film you expose for the shadows, in the digital world you expose carefully to avoid blown out highlights. Major difference is in the 'darkroom'. Be prepared to learn some tool like Lightroom or Capture One and shoot in DNG mode. The M9 'deserves' that to be at its best. If you intend to use jpeg only, maybe the Leica M is not for you. Other, more consumer oriented models will provide better jpeg results out of camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #6 Posted September 2, 2016 Everyone has their own view about M240 vs M262. Mine is that, having decided to go digital instead of staying with film, there is no point in trying to recreate a film experience by avoiding some of the benefits digital can bring. For me, by far the biggest one is the ability to see the results instantly, at no extra cost, and make immediate corrections. As a direct consequence the standard of my photography has improved massively in the last decade compared to the previous four! I could not imagine going back to photography where I had to wait hours, days or weeks to see the results. YMMV! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papimuzo Posted September 3, 2016 Share #7 Posted September 3, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Part of the serie of the M digital models you have the M-D 262 which is exactly the same tool ( no screen, no buttons, no video, no live-view of course) as a M6 or M7. You can keep totally your working habits from film cameras, except the "humid" development phase . Good pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted September 3, 2016 Share #8 Posted September 3, 2016 Agreed - the M-D 262 is essentially a digital M6-TTL. It's the camera I hoped for when the M9 came out, and I still hope to get one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted September 3, 2016 Share #9 Posted September 3, 2016 I rented M6-TTL and wished for a digital version, is this it --as far as the body size and feel and simplicity? The M-D typ 262 is the same in use as the film M7 model fitted with a motorized winder, in that it has an electronically regulated, vertically traveling metal shutter, and aperture priority AE in addition to the M6TTL feature set. The only other feature the M-D has is that it includes a clock and the ability to set the time and date to support the EXIF data embedded in the exposures. The M7 and M-D alike are slightly larger and heavier than the M6TTL, but not by terribly much: Leica M6TTL: Dimensions 5.4 in × 3.0 in × 1.5" (138 × 77 × 38 mm) Weight 1.28 lbs (585g) Leica M7: Dimensions 5.4 x 3.1 x 1.5" (138 x 79.5 x 38 mm) Weight 1.34 lbs (610g) Leica M-D typ 262: Dimensions 5.5 x 3.1 x 1.7" (138.6 x 80 x 42 mm) Weight 1.50 lb (680g) (with battery) The M-D feels thinner in the hand, and closer to the M6TTL and M7, than the other digital M models that include the LCD and buttons on the back of the camera, even though the LCD panel is just a couple of mm thick. Most of the difference in weight between these three models are materials choices and the weight of the M-D battery. I've gone for a shooting walk with both M4-2 and M-D in my bag. I often have to look to see which body I'm grabbing, they feel so similar. Regards to shutter sound, they're all pretty quiet. I don't have an M6TTL any more, but here is a link to recordings of the M-D typ 262, M-P typ 240, M4-2, and SL cameras: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFe00UU2hH3AxhBFp_zog_zwgocztsPyj To my hands and ears, the M-D typ 262 is as close to an M6TTL or M7 as you're ever likely to see in a digital camera. It is a wonderful camera to shoot with. If I could only have one of the three, I'd take the M-D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenge Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted September 4, 2016 Thanks a lot for the responses and useful information, will rent a 262 and see how it goes. Mark R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 4, 2016 Share #11 Posted September 4, 2016 Thanks a lot for the responses and useful information, will rent a 262 and see how it goes. Mark R. Smart move. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted September 4, 2016 Share #12 Posted September 4, 2016 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/260669-i-love-my-m-262/?do=findComment&comment=3049668 post #12 To have an idea of their thickness. Better is to take and use them a while. Arnaud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rawcs Posted September 4, 2016 Share #13 Posted September 4, 2016 I rented M6-TTL and wished for a digital version, is this it --as far as the body size and feel and simplicity? No matter how much people wish digital M cameras are similar in size and feel, they are not, they just stretch the meaning of similar. When Leica make a digital M with the same dimensions as a film M, I'll buy one in an instant. Good move on your part to rent a 262 and see if it suits you. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 4, 2016 Share #14 Posted September 4, 2016 No matter how much people wish digital M cameras are similar in size and feel, they are not, they just stretch the meaning of similar. When Leica make a digital M with the same dimensions as a film M, I'll buy one in an instant. Good move on your part to rent a 262 and see if it suits you. Mike. personally I think the difference between film and digital is far more then just size difference, whichever way it is .... IMHO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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